Emir wrote:
What didn’t work? You can revalidate MEP, ME/IR and SE/IR in one flight. Actually, the exam is for MEP and ME/IR while SE/IR is credited if you have valid SEP. Whoever told you different is definitely wrong, at least under EASA.
That is right, Emir. I know that you can have your revalidation of ME/IR and SE/IR at one shot, if you have both valid. But I have only ME/IR.
Anyway it was worth a try.
I need to arrange a SE/IR skill test now.
OK, so I have received this interesting answer from the authority.
Question was:
I have valid
IR (A) / ME, MEP, NVFR, SEP.
IR (A) / ME and MEP first obtained in 2020
what do I need to get SE/IR?
Answer was that I should have requested the SE/IR when I first received ME/IR.
As a consequence I need to complete the course as per appendix 6 of the regulation: “IR — Modular flying training course”
I am quite shocked. Not only I need to take a skill test for SE/IR, but take the whole course again…?
As a consequence I need to complete the course as per appendix 6 of the regulation: “IR — Modular flying training course”
This is incredible…
robirdus wrote:
Answer was that I should have requested the SE/IR when I first received ME/IR.
As a consequence I need to complete the course as per appendix 6 of the regulation: “IR — Modular flying training course”I am quite shocked. Not only I need to take a skill test for SE/IR, but take the whole course again…?
Try moving to another EASA authority? AFAIK if you have MEIR, then all you need is some sort of a checkride, and that is it.
arj1 wrote:
then all you need is some sort of a checkride, and that is it.
Yes, that is what I hope. I have asked an other question now:
“So is my understanding correct that to obtain SE/IR I need to pass a skill test with an authorized examiner?”
Waiting for the answer.
If you never had SEIR you may need SEIR skill-test…getting SEIR from MEIR initial test varies, UK used to allow this but I know France does not
Some arguments are like: they are separate ratings during initial tests, you did MEIR in DA42 you can’t fly SET under IFR, let’s not talk about what you need to do IFR in Push-Pull like C377 Skymaster, most IRE/ME fly A320 and they never flown SEP under IFR, MEIR ATO does not even have single engines…
However, I am surprised you need SEIR course? (you only need it for SEIR to MEIR upgrade for asymmetric syllabus)
Once, you have SEIR & MEIR, you can cross-credit in twins, this is EASA rule, it’s on initial tests where things are not crystal clear and every authority does as they are pleased…
IIRC when I did training for ME/IR with valid SE/IR it was just 5 or so flight hours. I don’t see why would the opposite route require more training.
Emir wrote:
IIRC when I did training for ME/IR with valid SE/IR it was just 5 or so flight hours. I don’t see why would the opposite route require more training.
This looks like an omission in part-FCL. It is stated that if you have a SE/IR you can get a ME/IR with a limited amount of extra training (it may be 5 hours as you say), but it says nothing about the other direction. Possibly the people who wrote it could not imagine that situation.
This looks like an omission in part-FCL
It is an omission for initial tests and various NAA interpret it as they wish
I have seen “IR-SPA-MEIR\ClassSE” on licences, I think it means SEIR obtained with valid SEP or SET + MEIR initial test? I have no idea how it differs from “IR-SPA-SEIR”…
IIRC to add an MEIR to an SEIR does indeed take about 5 hours as long as you already have an MEP rating. Its then not really a skills test at the end.of the 5 hours more of a checkride to include things like assymetric flying.
