tell me if you still “don’t know”.
Wrong forum, perhaps?
Rwy20 wrote:
There is no self serve fuel at LSZH
Yes, the UK and Switzerland are two glaring omissions from the self-service country list. One could philosophize a long time on the reasons for such good self-service coverage in some countries and none in others. 
Given that full-service auto gas stations went pretty much the way of the loony-bird last century, there is no valid reason for them not being standard for GA. Work mostly just fine where they exist, at least if kept maintained.
Airborne_Again wrote:
Are you sure that BP is selling AVGAS at ESSA, ESGG and ESMS? Those locations are not on BP’s web page.
Yes, they are on the country Air BP pricelist. Services are provided via a local operator, at ESMS called Malmö Fueling Services and similar. Nice guys, but a 1 000 SEK hook-up fee.
At ESMS, you can buy SS through one of the flight schools, but that requires for most that someone is at the school helping you out (office hours more or less). A variable and more fair amount for the service is then added to the price.
AndersB wrote:
Services are provided via a local operato
At least for JetA1 the general rule is that on genuine BP locations where the truck is green you should use their card. All other suppliers like World Fuel etc will just charge you more. At many other locations they will accept the BP card but the price will usually be bad so cash or another card work out better. The only exception beeing (so far) small uplifts where the BP card sometimes seemed to avoid the hook up charge in exchange for a higher price per liter…
Some strange stuff certainly goes on around this. For example at Badajoz, Spain, the AIR BP station is open till 1300 for the card but (unofficially) all day for cash
Traditionally, people like to use the AIR BP card in the “3rd World” because it prevents local ripoffs.
AndersB wrote:
Yes, they are on the country Air BP pricelist.
Do you have a link, please?
Services are provided via a local operator, at ESMS called Malmö Fueling Services and similar. Nice guys, but a 1 000 SEK hook-up fee.
Ok, but then it’s Malmö Fueling Services that charges the hook-up fee and not BP, right?
Peter wrote:
For example at Badajoz, Spain, the AIR BP station is open till 1300 for the card but (unofficially) all day for cash
Yes but there’s no this “hook up” or “uplift” nonsense there and prices are much lower than from the very same BP elsewhere in Spain. E.g Badajoz states 1.60€ for Jet-A1 and that’s what you’ll pay while Valencia states 1.50€ but actually you’ll pay 2.20€.
Luckily, there’s no these invented fees in Croatia (yet) and what you’re quoted you get, no surprises or hidden costs. At least in something we’re better than the rest of Europe.
The main problem in Europe is heavy taxation on fuels and applying the same policy for aviation and road vehicles in case of private use while airliners are tax exempted.
Airborne_Again wrote:
AndersB wrote:
Yes, they are on the country Air BP pricelist.
Do you have a link, please?Services are provided via a local operator, at ESMS called Malmö Fueling Services and similar. Nice guys, but a 1 000 SEK hook-up fee.
Ok, but then it’s Malmö Fueling Services that charges the hook-up fee and not BP, right?
Can’t get the link to work, but all customers on their mailing list receive a monthly mail with link to prices for all nordic countries. Check with BP if you don’t receive that. Second page describes details, the hook-up fee for example, paid to BP.
Peter wrote:
Wrong forum, perhaps?
I don’t get what you mean. Maybe yes, because when I quote the minimum fee of 126 CHF (117 €) per fuel uplift in Zurich, if someone replies that they don’t have a problem in Sweden because there are self-service pumps – how is that a relevant reply?
But it goes to show how fragmented and nationalistic GA still thinks – as long as it doesn’t immediately concern someone here, it doesn’t seem to be perceived as a problem.
The comment
tell me if you still “don’t know”.
suggests that the other person is pretending to not know.
For sure, some people do write that such and such is ok because in my country it is ok so it must be ok for all, and yes GA tends to be pretty well totally nationalistic in certain countries, but that’s not the same thing.
