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Oxygen - equipment, getting refills, refill hoses, safety, etc

This product makes it possible to monitor cyl level in the cockpit without the actual cyl gauge visible from the pilot seat. It‘s a bit expensive, but an alternative.

LSZK, Switzerland

That’s neat Except, needs a USB cable for power. Probably not Android, either.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Correct, all the company’s products are i-thingy…..iphone/iwatch.

The linked page says it comes with a USB powerbank. Anything wireless will need electrons from somewhere.

Nobody’s perfect. Every product has pros and cons. Potential buyer decides, different strokes for different folks.

LSZK, Switzerland

Here’s an interesting one. I have a place I’ve got near home that fills the oxygen bottle to 3000psi – and is a well established diving/sbuba firm.

First time it was refilled, no issues. Second time that it was refilled – he has done it but said he won’t do it anymore unless I can proof it’s a legal bottle to be refilled in the UK. Because it’s got DOT on the bottle, he’s saying he wants to see a sticker or something that says it’s okay to be filled in the UK.

Honestly, why is this world filled with so many beaurcratical jobsworths.

Anyway, I think he’s talking about IDEST -

https://www.yorkshire-divers.com/threads/cylinder-been-refused-to-be-filled-because-not-idest-stamped.217182/page-7
https://www.bsac.com/news-and-blog/idest-has-provided-updated-advice-on-the-changes-to-cylinder/

The bottle was purchased as brand new recently, so it doesn’t need an IDEST inspection…. surely.

Qualified PPL with IR SP/SE PBN
EGSG, United Kingdom

What a load of self-perpetuating self-flaggelating gold-plating self-congragulating money-grabbing BS.

At work (electronics) I get several trade mags. They are about 1/3 full of compliance vermin stuff.

I used to live with this from UK scuba shops for years. This is why I rent a W size BOC cylinder, for about 100 quid a year. Stick your middle finger to these twats and do the same

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I’ve noticed that “oxygen therapy” is now quite popular in some circles and that there are what appear to be demand regulators used there. Examples would be Weinmann OXYTRON 3, HUM AeroWay EOC, or DeVilbiss EX 3000.

Would those be fit for aviation use (from a practical, not necessarily regulatory perspective)?

tmo
EPKP - Kraków, Poland

First thing I look at is the max specified altitude, which has tended to be 8000ft (airline cabin).

The Weinmann OXYTRON 3 looks like something you strap to your wheelchair, with the O2 cylinder strapped next to it.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Point taken; at least the DeVilbiss OM-900 is specified up to 10000 ft, so pretty much useless.

https://www.rehabmart.com/pdfs/pm-00040f.pdf

But the now discontinued DeVilbiss PD-1000 is speced up (down) to 500hPa, which is around 18k ft, which possibly could work, maybe.

https://www.drivedevilbiss-int.com/products/respiratory/oxygen-therapy/155/pd1000
https://www.drivedevilbiss-int.com/media/pdf/00/8a/80/DDI_PD1000_User-Manual.pdf

Probably doesn’t make sense to mess around with those, once done one will probably end up with the MH unit anyway.

Last Edited by tmo at 30 Jul 10:58
tmo
EPKP - Kraków, Poland

Peter wrote:

I used to live with this from UK scuba shops for years. This is why I rent a W size BOC cylinder, for about 100 quid a year. Stick your middle finger to these twats and do the same

Couldn’t agree more, it’s just the £500-600 investment in the piping/valves etc too to consider.

Qualified PPL with IR SP/SE PBN
EGSG, United Kingdom

Then you will just have hassle for ever

That business is full of monkeys. It is also cliquey and they don’t like people who are not “real” scuba divers. One of the first things I used to hear when going into a shop was “you are not a scuba diver are you????”

One spends enough time in flying pushing rocks uphill.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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