Random funny thought:
Two friends rent a C172 and go out flying. Both have PPL(A) and SEP, but Ian holds an Instrument Rating without a Night Rating, and Nick holds a Night Rating without an Instrument Rating.
They depart IFR in the evening, Ian is PIC. When civil night approaches, they have to cancel IFR and Nick becomes PIC so that they can continue the flight VFR at night.
In this case the minimum required crew for the flight is TWO? So both can log the time?
No, they just log each PIC time separately.
Dimme wrote:
No, they just log each PIC time separately.
What would you put into the “holder’s operating capacity”? P1 for both?
Flight time: 21:00 – 23:00. Night starts at 22:00.
21:00 – 22:00: Ian logs PIC. Nick logs nothing.
22:00 – 23:00: Nick logs PIC. Ian logs nothing.
Does an IR not include night flight privileges without the need for a separate rating?
An EASA (or UK CAA) IR does; also it includes night passenger carriage privileges. Unless you got the special day-only version for pilots who fail all the CV tests; that used to be available in the UK under the table only but is now EASA-official.
No, I don’t understand why, either 
Reportedly it was done as a quick fix when after some JAA reg came out it was realised that airline pilots could not carry passengers at night unless they did 3 landings with an empty plane first
We should have another thread for “hilarious aviation regulations”
dublinpilot wrote:
Does an IR not include night flight privileges without the need for a separate rating?
It does, but it can also be restricted to day only. If you take the IR without having the NQ first, you will get a day only restriction.
Alpha_Floor wrote:
Two friends rent a C172 and go out flying.
The same 2 friends also planned a 600nm round trip and a TAS of 120kt, with George flying the outbound leg and Linda flying the return leg, they had planned the night before that, as there was no wind forecast, the whole flight would take 5 hours.
However, next morning they found the wind (exactly aligned with the route) to be at 30kts giving a GS of 150kt on the outbound leg and 90kt on the return leg.
The outbound leg took 2 hours exactly but the return flight took 3 hours 20 minutes, total 5:20.
Why did the round trip take 20 mins longer than planned ?
300NM/90ktGS=3h20m
Now I want to know the real answer to this trick question.
@Snoopy you spend more time battling the headwind than enjoying the tailwind.
