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Detailed discussion of medical requirements between LAPL medical and Euro PPL Class 2, and FAA Class 3

eurogaguest1980 wrote:

And then in a year, I go back for the Class 2 and I get two years?

It may then be an initial, not a renewal, though. There are some concessions in renewals that are not acceptable in an initial.

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lionel wrote:

It may then be an initial, not a renewal, though. There are some concessions in renewals that are not acceptable in an initial.

As far as I understand part-MED, and initials is not needed until 5 years have passed and you still have these concessions. Note item (iii) below.

MED.A.45 (c) (2) In the case of class 1 and class 2 medical certificates:
…(i) if the medical certificate has expired for less than 2 years, a routine revalidation aero-medical examination shall be performed;
…(ii) if the medical certificate has expired for more than 2 years but less than 5 years, the AeMC or AME shall only conduct the renewal aero-medical examination after assessment of the aero-medical records of the applicant;
…(iii) if the medical certificate has expired for more than 5 years, the aero-medical examination requirements for initial issue shall apply and the assessment shall be based on the revalidation requirements.

Last Edited by Airborne_Again at 12 May 15:43
ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Item (iii) is interesting in that after 5 years an LAPL medical reverts to Initial requirements, whereas a normal Class 2 remains the same, I think, no?

I think this is quite subtle:

the aero-medical examination requirements for initial issue shall apply and the assessment shall be based on the revalidation requirements.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Item (iii) is interesting in that after 5 years an LAPL medical reverts to Initial requirements, whereas a normal Class 2 remains the same, I think, no?

The item is about class 1 and 2 — not LAPL. LAPL doesn’t have the same kind of distinction between initial and subsequent examinations.

I think this is quite subtle:

Yes.

the aero-medical examination requirements for initial issue shall apply and the assessment shall be based on the revalidation requirements.

I take it to mean that the AME has to do all the checks and tests that apply to the initial examination, but when assessing if the pilot is fit or not, then regular revalidation criteria should be used.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

The item is about class 1 and 2

Interesting. I knew the Class 1 reverted to a completely Initial medical after 5 years but didn’t know the Class 2 did.

Amazing how much national variation there is. For example colour vision.

Posts moved to the best thread I can find

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

I knew the Class 1 reverted to a completely Initial medical after 5 years but didn’t know the Class 2 did.

Neither ever revert to a “completely initial medical”. See my two previous posts.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

I think the UK one used to – back when I used to have a Class 1. Very few people ever noticed that bit of text, but it may have caught out some who made use of the constant derogations but did not need a Euro Class 1 for some reason. I discussed this with the AME at the time and he told me to not worry about it

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Pity there isn’t some sort of comparison document out there.

AMEs (well, the ones who know their job) coul produce one, but they rarely post on forums

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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