172driver wrote:
ENVA is essentially desert climate, much like Arizona or inland California.
You mean LPEV. ENVA is very far from having desert climate.
Airborne_Again wrote:
You mean LPEV. ENVA is very far from having desert climate.
Yes, you are of course correct. I meant LPEV (no idea why I wrote ENVA…..age, I guess….), which I know and it IS a desert climate.
There are also TB10’s. Just saw one on the pic in Peter’s post and checked. 3 of them advertized.
As Peter sais, GT’s are rare airframes. This whole thing could be a rather interesting proposal for someone with the facilities to make those airplanes fly again. All in all, it looks like 3 TB10, 3 Seneca V and 5 TB20 if I counted correctly. And heaven knows what else is lying around in those hangars.
Via this link there are pictures of quite a few airplanes which are now for sale, some with cockpit views.
TB20 cockpit
Looks pretty standard with the KFC225, 2x GNS430 (probably non WAAS) and the usual standard stuff. Possibly even Mode S
Seneca Cockpit
STEC-55x, GNS530 and some moving map display. No FD, but otherwise also not a bad cockpit.
TB200 Cockpit
Basic IFR with GNS430, DME, ADF and Mode C transponder.
If those planes are still fully equipped, someone who knows how to make them fly should have a closer look.
If I was the one selling them, I’d go there with a bunch of guys and a Kaercher and clean them outside, check them up one by one and then upgrade the adds. Actually, I probably would have done that even before posting pics.
Yeah – that’s an early TB20GT. No EDM700 but has the KFC225 so not one of the first GTs. The 2×GNS430 was one of the two options; the other was KLN94+KMD550 which is what I bought (superior for VFR).
Most likely, what will happen is that a dealer with some cash will buy the lot, clean them up, get some cheap and nasty engine overhauls done by some local shop in Europe so he can sell them as “zero timed”, and sell them off. I’ve seen that done with other similar cases e.g. the Israeli Air Force TB20 engines, which somebody bought as a lot and shipped them to the US.
172driver wrote:
ENVA is essentially desert climate, much like Arizona or inland California
I wish 
My club’s mechanic is refurbishing a C-172 now (as a private hobby kind of thing). The plane was a wreck. My club had it several years ago, sold it for “nothing”, a token lump of money. Since then it has flown a couple of times perhaps, and then grounded somewhere for more than 10 years. He bought it for nothing I would think. He is now in the process of taking it apart as much as can be done. He said it will take him around 500 h, and when finished it will be as “new”. New parts and paint will also cost something, but IMO he will get himself a very OK C-172 for less than €50k and that includes a zero h engine.
It looks to me that just about anything is possible to save. A C-172 is easy to get parts for, maybe that is more difficult with a TB-20, but in the right hands.
