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lukepower wrote:

I know this has been beaten to death, but considering that the family missions might be further away, does it make sense to start with a PA28 or similar cheap, slow aircraft and then upgrade to something else if needed – or begin outright with a PA32 for example?

Buy what you want to fly would be my advice.

Any purchase is going to cost you a bit in time, money and hassle to get it how you want it. There’s not much point in doing this twice, with the first one being some sort of practice run, if you know what you need now.

The PA28 is an excellent aircraft and very good from a maintenance point of view, but if it doesn’t fit your mission profile then it doesn’t fit it.

My data point is that most of my A-B flying is in a TB10 (perhaps equivalent to a PA28 with very slightly more comfort/range/useful load) and the usual occupants are me and my girlfriend – we have no kids. We get in, chuck all our bags in the back, fill the fuel tanks and enjoy the full range without worrying about W&B. If my usual occupants were three or four people rather than two then I think I’d be looking at a six seater because most aircraft, especially four seaters, are quite compromised on range if you want to fill all the seats. There is no getting away from that.

In Bolzano you can really do with a 300 hp airplane. Well, anywhere really.

There is two points about it. Yes, you can buy a cheaper plane first, but in order to upgrade, you need to sell it first again and all this is hassle you don’t need.

Basically I’d say given all the information you have, the Beech is a really nice airplane for more than just a couple of years. It can literally do most stuff that other planes can’t. It has a decent payload, pretty good cabin and is reasonably fast. Yes, they are not cheap to maintain but they are also simply great planes.

In comparison to a Mooney 201, well, the 201 is certainly more economic, I’d also say the cabin is not really much tighter (maybe in headroom but not witdh) and you can do 160 kts at about 8 to 10 GPH. If however you are looking at a A36, it simply is something much more substantial. In terms of Mooneys I’d compare it with a long body such as the Ovation, which however is a 2-3 seater in reality.

So I see really not much wrong with this plane for you, in terms of can’t go wrong if it is in good shape. You can take up to 6 people, a very decent payload and a decent range. And all that for a quite competitive price where as Beech 36’s are concerned.

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For the archive
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Well, I would guess this ad is a little outdated.

Looks like a very heated time on the used GA aircraft market anyway.

It is calming down. The majority of US listings over the last months have either being withdrawn and not sold, or starting to click down the asking price at around $5k every couple of weeks until they find a buyer…or not. The tight insurance market is working quite hard at putting the dampeners on the GA second hand market, especially for complex types.

Sounds like the F33A accident might have been due to poor systems understanding? Taking off with fuel pump on high in this type is likely to result in a rich cut engine failure.

I put a Commander 112 we are selling on Planecheck late yesterday. We have had alot of interest, and deal is pending already. I don’t know if this is because the price was right, or if the market in the ~100k price range is especially good now.