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Guernsey EGJB May 2024 (and the "Guernsey/Alderney GAR" form)

This was a nice and quick day trip from Shoreham EGKA. Flight time 1hr.

ILS27 was notamed INOP so I flew the RNP27. Poor vis and low cloud; got visual just above the DH (cleared up later)

A very smooth airport. Everything works perfectly. A pity about the ASG £40 “handling” for which you get precisely nothing, but it is ok for an occassional trip.



The walk to Le Gouffre is nice and easy – under 20 mins. A great place for a lunch / meet-up.




One can do very nice cliff walks from there






To get into the main town St Peter’s Port you need a taxi; £17 from LeGouffre


I have no idea what “poop deck” is

Note that the format of the “Guernsey GAR” has changed recently and the one I emailed to Customs – basically identical – was refused (discovered this upon arrival) so I had to fill in a fresh one by hand! These forms are not machine-readable anyway so clearly someone was looking for work

Note that the Channel Islands have no PN or PPR; the 12hr GAR PN is only for Brits

Database report

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

I have no idea what “poop deck” is

It’s a smaller raised deck behind and above the quarterdeck, a sort of observation platform. On most sailing ships the quarterdeck is the highest and aft-most deck and (in a naval context) the preserve of officers.

Most ships don’t have a poop. On those that do, it’s nothing to do with pooping :-)

EGLM & EGTN

May seems a good time for the wildflowers there, despite the OVC. If you get it right, the yellow gorse flowers have a real tropical smell. St Peter port looks intimidatingly built up in comparison

EGHO-LFQF-KCLW, United Kingdom

Can anyone confirm that the GAR form here
https://www.gov.gg/Generalaviationpolicy
is not editable?

I can’t edit it. It is just a graphic so one could annotate it with text boxes… I can open it in Adobe PDF and Save As a word doc and edit that (tacky as hell but doable).

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

It did for me on an Android phone. Download, open in acrobat, then the ‘fill and sign’ option at the bottom. I can’t upload the print screen for some reason. I’ll try again tomorrow, plus iOS.

EGHO-LFQF-KCLW, United Kingdom

It is not editable unless you edit the PDF in Adobe (or similar software), which is very messy.

I am sure that website used to have a .doc version – I was in Guernsey very recently and edited a Word document that I am sure I downloaded from that website. The handler sent me a slightly different Word document.

EGTF, United Kingdom

I suspect they found they could not open the .doc with some ancient bootleg Word which some police station is using

The same form is for Alderney but they didn’t complain about it.

The website now contains yet more email addresses to send it to, and different ones!

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Is it less crowded / complicated than Jersey (who has very special and heavily enforced arrival procedures) ?

Do you need customs coming from the UK as well ?

It could serve as a nice alternative to Jersey for a first international trip / EPL practive (without the French accent).

France

Guernsey is smaller than Jersey, yes, and the “£40 ASG mandatory handling” process works very smoothly. And you get nice hard parking.

And there is the nice walk to the nice restaurant; most airports need a taxi to get anywhere.

You need Customs but – as in the UK – the GAR form does the whole thing. Just email it before you fly there; no “PN” as such for EGJB.

2024 Guernsey GAR .doc version

Jersey is grass unless you pay £200+ to GAMA. Haven’t been there for years.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Note that the Channel Islands have no PN or PPR; the 12hr GAR PN is only for Brits

Do you mean that a GAR is not necessary for the CI, coming from the EU / France? Is this documented anywhere? The information on the form itself looks like it is required (but not the UK GAR process?).

It’s is not at all clear from the AIP. Or put another way, it just says that Customs and Immigration are available “as AD hours”. No mention of a GAR.

UK info in Jepp just talks about GAR in the context of UK-EU and UK-CI traffic. No mention of EU-CI traffic needing a GAR.

France AIP & Jepp have lots of info about the flying part, but nothing about a GAR being needed.

As you mention for EGJB, EGJJ also seems to have its own GENDEC form. Is it safe to assume (I don’t like that word) that submitting either of these forms to the indicated email addresses satisfies the requirements and the UK GAR is not needed?

Last Edited by chflyer at 28 Sep 10:02
LSZK, Switzerland
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