Does your aircraft have TKS prop anti-ice or TKS windscreen anti-ice and, if so, did that not get rid of the ice on the windscreen pretty quickly?
We have full TKS. We good even see the fluid on the wings in a nice continuous stream. But anyway suddenly we got the ice. I think it was just too much for staying ice free.
Very nice trip and report Peter, thanks for posting. Does your aircraft have TKS prop anti-ice or TKS windscreen anti-ice and, if so, did that not get rid of the ice on the windscreen pretty quickly?
Today we finished our trip and flew back from Valance to Stuttgart EDDS. Regarding the weather information we got upfront I did expect it would be no fun flight. But in the beginning it didn’t look that bad.
But then we got light ice. And even as FL 150 did put us above the clouds for a while and OAT went down to -15 degrees Celsius, we got moderate icing as soon as we had to renter clouds. Even with full TKS deicing activated some clear ice was spread over the wings. Over the alps not the best feeling.
The following photo was taken when descending and ice starts to melt away. Before the windscreen was covered nearly 100%with ice.
Starting from above Zürich we could decent to VFR conditions, cancel IFT to shorten the way and the flight ended absolutely uneventful.
Two weeks of flying, 11 hours, perfect holidays.
Probably nothing. Maybe crew transport if it’s not walking distance
Well from the Pirep, taxi from airport to city was 30€ 
I gather apron & terminal have to sit in different planets to be near 200€, maybe they got their pricing from Elon Musk trips?
Exactly what did you get for that princely sum??
Probably nothing. Maybe crew transport if it’s not walking distance
217 Euros Handling..!!!
Exactly what did you get for that princely sum??
Is Bilbao not an EANA airport with the AOPA agreement for minimum handling?
Total cost at Bilbao?
See here.
@lbra
Nice “avoidance trip”, all planned in last days?
Affirmative. The decision to go to Beziers was made Friday night before leaving on Saturday morning. And then we made the planning on the fly always with an eye on the weather, because regarding sightseeing we prefer nice weather. For flying we enjoy nice weather as well, because then we can go VFR.
The last stop for refueling and sightseeing was Valence LFLU. We had a nice short flight along the Ardèche river before diving down in the Rhône valley. It was very nice of the ops guys, that they came to tell us, that we will need a code to enter the field when departing on Saturday or Sunday. One should ask at the info desk beforehand, they check your identity and then they will send you an email with code and access guidance. Without the advice we would have missed that procedure.
Valence is a small but nice town, with many work in progress to upgrade the old towns appearance. The parks and recreation areas were the biggest surprise for us. So we enjoyed another day walking around.
Wonderful trip
There is so much to see in Spain… beautiful photos!
I hope we can have more meet-ups there soon.
Nice “avoidance trip”, all planned in last days?
Do you know why Ruoms is restricted?
No one knows (no one has a single clue why ), some desk/chair person got bored and decided it’s time for Autumn cleaning of Rhône-Valley aerodromes, the law with those restrictions were drafted late Sep 2014
The full list is big: Lyon-Brindas, Saint Galmier, St-Jean d’Avelanne, St-Jean en Royans, Sallanche (closed all together), Albertville, Ruoms, Belleville, Belley…I am assuming all VAC have been updated in 2018
