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Moving to Porto, Portugal

How much is the super cub?

CKN
EGLM (White Waltham)

How much is the super cub?

€90/hour if you bulk pay, €110 if you pay as you go

Last Edited by geekyflyer at 17 Dec 07:23

The rather more interesting question for someone intending to join for merely one year is: how much is the one-off entry fee and how much is the yearly fee?

Particularly the one-off fee (I think
most clubs in the UK don’t even have that) can be eye-watering. In Italy, it is usually somwhere around 1000€. Yearly fees between 700 and 1000€.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

Particularly the one-off fee

Is that non-refundable? In switzerland most clubs ask for a deposit of 1000 or 2000 CHF, which you get back when you quit

LSZK, Switzerland

Yes, usually a non-refundable one-off fee. That’s how it works in most clubs in Germany as well, although the numbers tend to be not quite as bad.

I for one am tempted to join for example this club next year, but it would be 720 to join and another 600 yearly, so that would be more than 1300 for one year should I decide (or be forced) to leave the year after…

Last Edited by boscomantico at 17 Dec 09:14
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

At my current UK club, the yearly fee is £150 if you’re AOPA member, £225 if not and there is no one off payment.
The Porto club, unless I got the commas wrong, it’s €100 a year and €90 one off.

Bosco, one would expect the hourly prices to reflect the fact that you’re paying more than €100 a month? The aircraft on your link look like they’re in very good shape.

I also think simply just comparing the hourly prices doesn’t work as each club/school has a different way of charging, (hobbs, tacho, airborne time, brakes off/on).

For me I’m just happy that I might be able to continue my hobby when I move

100/90 is very very low and sounds like a total no-brainer. Do it!

Certainly, a club which charges high yearly fees will tend to have lower hourly charges, so at the end of the year, things more or less equal out. The problem is usually more with those high one-off fees which are real turn offs (unless one intends to spend many years in that club and not move).

Last Edited by boscomantico at 17 Dec 11:12
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

Geeky, you have a PM

These are compelling prices, and a nice range of aircraft. Combine this with job, quality of life and good weather… Let me know if they need a lawyer

What intrigues me is that the rental cost and general condition of aircraft in some parts of Europe are much cheaper and better respectively. For example:

Denham UK: PA-28 @ £135/€170 ph
Dreux (near Paris): DR400 @ €118 ph / PA-28 @ €150 ph
Bastia: PA-28 @ €149 ph / Arrow @ €159 ph (!)

I trained on a 40 year old 152 (my friend looked inside and exclaimed "you learned to fly in that?!?) and excluding instructor that was £115/€150 ph.

Is this due to government subsidies or something else? It can’t just be the exchange rate. I know England is more expensive but still…

CKN
EGLM (White Waltham)

Rip off Britain I would imagine. I cannot see subsidies to European flying clubs, schools, especially Portugal..

The clubs are not making money, so it must be the ever deepening taxation/utilities issue.

This is total thread drift, but, the fundamental financial issues of this country have not been touched. We are in a worse state than 2007/8. So………..

The hire rates do appear very attractive. I paid for one hour, including instructor, 150.00 euro.very good condition Cessna 172S

Fly safe. I want this thing to land l...
EGPF Glasgow
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