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Is Adams Aviation (UK) any good for EU customers?

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In my business, exporting to the EU, I find BE, NL and DE Customs are “chucking packages onto a pile” for a couple of weeks, and sometimes returning them to us marked “refused” while telling the recipient that they are “in customs”. Just for fun But this is airmail packages; DHL Fedex UPS etc had the same issues but resolved them after some weeks or months, so we now use them for everything. Costs more…

I am not sure how much export Adams actually do but I would not expect them to generate correct paperwork.

There are firms like Trans Global which enable you to send by e.g. DHL but for much less.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

I am not sure how much export Adams actually do but I would not expect them to generate correct paperwork.

Do you have practical experience to justify why you think they can’t do the right paperwork?

Avionics geek.
Somewhere remote in Devon, UK.

Do you have practical experience to justify why you think they can’t do the right paperwork?

Przemek has

Either that, or they are using airmail, which basically doesn’t work anyway, currently, due to fairly obvious factors.

Adams are slightly weird. A weird catalogue, and kicked me off having an account because I didn’t have enough aircraft They exist only because of this.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I confirm – Adams is WEIRD. There was some stories. Anyway after brexit I buy directly from USA as is faster and chapper.
AMETEK/Muirhead they did fair offer for me however now I’m thinking how to be sure that I will not get problems regarding customs and shipping of for example unit blocked for half year somewhere… It’s 10k eur unit..
Any advises here ?

Btw. I look for previous certificate issued by DMA (manufacturer). There is not standing that it’s valid one year. My scales (for weighting) are valid 2 years.
On what is based one year period?

http://www.Bornholm.Aero
EKRN, Denmark

If you use UPS or DHL, and look up the correct customs tariff, it should work fine. These firms push UK parcels through the customs on the mainland pretty aggressively so any silly “brexit punishment” games don’t work (anymore). Airmail (“small packet”) doesn’t work because literally nobody is pushing it so customs have it all their own way. Airmail (letters) works OK.

The possible difficulty is getting Adams to do the paperwork right.

Or I can help – PM me. Adams can send it back to me and I will ship it to you with the right papers (do this every day)

Have to warn you though; it’s not gonna be cheap to ship. It may be similar if you buy an airline ticket and bring it with you.

Important to do the paperwork right for a “repair and return” job. It’s like engine overhauls; it helps to use the same shipping method in both directions.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

In 30 years I have never had one case of faulty paperwork with Adams. Post Brexit all their EU paperwork is issued by their German subsidiary

EHLE / Lelystad, Netherlands, Netherlands

My 2 packages sent by adams to de after brexit was blocked by german customs for over 2 months. They was saying that its waiting for customs clearance and they are busy. Same customs was passing US packages within 2 days.

http://www.Bornholm.Aero
EKRN, Denmark

Peter wrote:

If you use UPS or DHL, and look up the correct customs tariff, it should work fine.

Not necessarily… You want to use the “aircraft parts” customs code as that is 0% duty. However, Swedish customs – I and would expect all of EU since the customs union is a cornerstone of the EU – demands that you get prior authorisation for that code. This does not work fine with UPS, at least, as they don’t bother asking but simply replaces that customs code to something else with a few percent duty. Ask me how I know.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

demands that you get prior authorisation for that code.

Never heard of that. Do you have more details?

There are multiple codes. I use

AIRCRAFT PARTS Commodity code: 8801009000

The biggest issue is that shippers employ mostly stupid people. Actually that’s true for most big companies. And a lot of sellers are a bit “slow” in understanding this, too, when doing the paperwork.

Then there is this big one which thankfully almost nobody in Customs knows about, thankfully.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Now there is no difference in customs to a US shipping, so I virtually stopped shopping in UK. The customs procedures for importing from UK into EU are still suffering from Brexitis and UK shippers are in a learning curve. Traditionally UPS and FedEx were the ones to use for importing, as they have their own customs clearance centres, but now DHL saw the big $$$ cooperating with USPS and started its own customs clearance – which helps a lot, but costs a lot. Regarding TARIC numbers for customs – this is something between science and voodoo, requiring 3 year study as a logistics customs specialist and still you will have surprises. The guy processing your shipment will choose whatever suits the minute mood – I seldom see them making sense, but most of the times reflecting the guy doing it had no clue whatsoever, so just – forget it. It may help to stick a Form-One/8130-3 to the package to slip into the 88 100 90 region, but don’t rely on it.

Short to the title, Adams was a viable source for intra-EU customers, but isn’t any longer – just a small Brexit victim.

Last Edited by MichaLSA at 04 Feb 07:58
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