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Is Adams Aviation (UK) any good for EU customers?

I expect this “brexit punishment” business will settle down in due course, but it is taking a long time… I don’t think it is top level govt policy (well, not today) but is clearly coordinated at some lower level. It would be dressed up as “being really fussy with clearance of UK packages” in case of a leak. The net effect is pushing up shipping costs from UK suppliers.

Adams is just a reseller for many other firms, of which most are not in the UK, so no reason to use Adams particularly. Saywells and Airpart are popular here too, and I know Saywells do a lot of export so maybe worth a try. The problem is that so many people are exploting the “aviation pricing game”. Sandelving in Germany (who call themselves Aircraft Spruce EU) are marking up the American stuff substantially, as I found out on this job.

Post Brexit all their EU paperwork is issued by their German subsidiary

Do Adams container ship to a depot located in Germany? That is what Sandelving DE do, about once a week, from the US.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I will have to check the label on y next delivery – I only notice that I order from Adams UK and that deliveries are problem free and invoiced by their German operation

EHLE / Lelystad, Netherlands, Netherlands

It would make sense to have an EU warehouse, because you can bulk ship to it, with 100% right docs, air freight is far cheaper than couriers (~£500 for 250kg instead of ~£4000), and perform your own processing at the destination. My father used to run such an operation from a wooden hut at Heathrow for Commodore calculators coming in from Japan

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

It would make sense to have an EU warehouse,

No, unless you still find a free-trade zone, the business case f*cks up. A fully blown warehouse with fast shipping would require having the stock economically active, import customs and taxes already paid. Stocking goods in a warehouse is no longer a good case in the communists ;-) EU, given the current tax systems – even more in times of inflation. They even kill the local small shops systems we were accustomed to in our youth by the same killing – Amazon&Co wrecks any shop/warehouse approach and no, even the logistics disaster after Covid-idiocy will not change that imho.

Last Edited by MichaLSA at 04 Feb 09:30
Germany

I am still waiting for 60£ adapter plug for aircraft from Pooleys, I have paid duty/vat and called everyday morning get DPD to sort things, I have not received anything as they need to match some invoicing, as one can see things are bounced south and north between EU/UK since mid January but I am not in a hurry

I have ordered load of stuff previously from Pooleys with “no issues or triggering exceptions” but now it seems going to pick them myself in Elstree is way easier

From US, ordered last week, things are way smooth and well paved, UPS will still deliver to you even if you don’t pay any taxes and even if they can’t reconcile invoices (you receive the invoice later in upcoming months or years), maybe people are just learning how to handle shipments between EU & UK?

Last Edited by Ibra at 04 Feb 13:19
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Przemek wrote:

My 2 packages sent by adams to de after brexit was blocked by german customs for over 2 months. They was saying that its waiting for customs clearance and they are busy. Same customs was passing US packages within 2 days.

Selective “quiet quitting” related to Brexit?

LSZK, Switzerland

Peter wrote:

Do Adams container ship to a depot located in Germany? That is what Sandelving DE do, about once a week, from the US.

It very much depends on what is being ordered. My experience with Sandelving DE (Aircraft Spruce Europe) is that it is inevitably cheaper to order directly from Aircraft Spruce in the US. For some products there is regional representation which may or may not get a better price. It really pays to shop around. A good example is the recent experience here related to a MyGoPro order.

LSZK, Switzerland

chflyer wrote:

Sandelving DE (Aircraft Spruce Europe)

Did they regain being representative for Spruce? Even though they did carry the name, they weren’t last time I checked. Very, very unfortunate, C. Bayram and his Aircraft-Parts.eu holding the Spruce EU representative did not survive and stopped doing business. I wonder whether it was due to the high costs of holding stock?

Germany

MichaLSA wrote:

Did they regain being representative for Spruce? Even though they did carry the name, they weren’t last time I checked.

The website of Aircraft Spruce says they are.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Peter wrote:

Never heard of that. Do you have more details?

There are multiple codes. I use

AIRCRAFT PARTS Commodity code: 8801009000

That code is for “non-powered aircraft” other than “Balloons and dirigibles; gliders and hang gliders”. (Source: EU regulation 2658/87 with revisions.)

The code I’ve used is 8807300010. “parts of aeroplanes, helicopters or unmanned aircraft” other than “propellers and rotors” or “undercarriages”. Use of this number is subject to conditions given in article 254 of EU regulation 952/2013 (with revisions). I’ve tried to figure out what the conditions actually mean, but it is too difficult if you’re not into customs regs…

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden
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