Tumbleweed wrote:
Sadly, they will leave the current mess and add yet another variant to it.
@Tumbleweed, you mean like the one below? That is very likely!
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/standards_2x.png
Yeah; I agree with above.
Actually for intra-UK, no need for a Class 2 for any private flying, because it has zero demonstrable safety value.
It really is quite simple. Take Part-FCL and scrap it along will all the associated laws.
Give everyone a National ICAO licence as per the ANO, its all still there and reinstate the line in the law that says “The CAA shall issue licences as it thinks fit.”
Stop issuing non ICAO licences except for Microlight and Autogyro, anyone with 40 hours recorded training gets an ICAO UK National Licence.
If you want to fly in the UK a PMD is good, if you want to leave you need a Class II
If you have an IR you need a Class II at least.
Sadly, they will leave the current mess and add yet another variant to it.
New consulation from the UK CAA:
https://consultations.caa.co.uk/corporate-communications/ga-pilot-licensing-training-phase-1/
“We are looking to consolidate and simplify the current general aviation pilot licensing and training regulation.
This takes forward a request from the community made in response to our 2020 consultation on opportunities for general aviation regulation post-EU exit.
We think the community would be better served by an overhaul of the current system in favour of a more straightforward and integrated set of licences that allow easier progression should the holder wish to do so."
Has anyone read it yet? @bookworm, @Qalupalik, @MattL, have you seen it before?
Formally, yes 
And since the govt owns the DfT and the DfT owns the CAA…
Peter wrote:
the CAA was working towards some bilateral treaty with EASA
The UK CAA has said in answer to various questions that a bilateral arrangement is a matter for DfT and the government.
If the CAA was working towards some bilateral treaty with EASA, they would definitely delay doing anything “too good” within the UK. It would be provocative.
It’s like, post divorce, the man must not look like he is having too much fun – if he wants access to the kids without too much hassle 
Or, more currently, you can’t have Ukraine as a relatively well-off country with, wait for it, people having WASHING MACHINES!!!!!! while Motherland Russia has still got scrubbers (no, I mean this kind of scrubber) for these.
OTOH, dropping the UK national PPL has no downside that I can see. For a start, you cannot apply for it initially unless you hold a Class 2 medical.
Running the LAPL (even if nobody was training or operating it) would be a perfectly sensible pragmatic brown-nosing of Cologne, because if EASA was re-joined in some way, they would want the UK to adopt the LAPL.
Ibra wrote:
so it could literally take forever.Don’t disregard the possibility of UK rejoining EASA in next 10 years (not the EU)
I doubt the Tory will do anything with EU. Or did you mean if Labour comes to power? I wouldn’t exclude the possibility of joining either! :)
so it could literally take forever.
Don’t disregard the possibility of UK rejoining EASA in next 10 years (not the EU)
