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LeSving wrote:

Anyway, it looks now like Omicron is some kind of final solution to the problem. It’s highly contagious (even though some mean it’s the opposite…) and it has shown to be pretty harmless. This is perfect. It will take over within weeks, and that’s that.

I suppose that this is the result of rash press publishing. NOTHING is clear yet, least of all if this thing is as harmless as people wish it to be. There is no experience with it, in particular with Long Covid, which plagues many who have had “soft” cases.

It is really not the time yet to start celebrating. Delta still ravages and Omikron is still a very much sealed book.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

Malibuflyer wrote:

“Fuel doesn’t matter at all for flying”

Gliding ;)

Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

In keeping with the media drive to keep the panic / emergency going forever and get us all locked down, we now have this.

A scary headline telling us about an new stealth variant.

But if you read the whole article and have the critical reasoning skills to analyse what it actually says, you’ll find that this sub-variant of Omicron differs in that it doesn’t give quite the same unique PCR response, on some PCR machines, that regular Omicron does – a fact which is of zero consequence because genome analysis is used to detect variants, not PCR tests.

Particularly appalling are their weasel words:

Informally, some researchers are calling the new variant “stealth Omicron” because it lacks the deletion that allows PCR tests to spot it.

I am willing to wager that, with no specifics offered, no-one has actually called it “stealth Omicron” except the journalist.

Last Edited by Graham at 07 Dec 18:13
EGLM & EGTN

It’s also a problem that most people now focus on Omicron and forget that the current wave is driven by Delta.

Here it is at this time not the papers which express fear and horror, but the professional health care people who can see their hospitals overflowing within a week or so and who can openly see that their concerns are no longer being listened to. Likewise the expert board of virologists and specialists have been calling for much sterner measures, they are being totally ignored.

Consequently infection, hospitalisation and death numbers explode, despite some token measures imposed, while in the countries that did go “lockdown” the figures are slowly creeping backwards.

I don’t doubt that there will be variants in the near future, which will evade both vaccines and PCR tests. In which case we are pretty much back to square one.

In the mean time, Delta rages on and docs in our hospitals have to deal with people whose only concern is that they won’t get accidently vaccinated in hospital (as if anone was doing that). It is the epithome of human stupidity, egoism and ignorance.

Rage however comes from “both sides” by now. While the conspiracy nuts and anti vaxxers are barking up the trees still, the vaccinated majority gets extremely put off that because of them we have to contend with new lock down measures and see another ruined winter season. It is only a question of time until there will be an open rift between the fractions which I reckon will result in violence eventually.

Now most of us are vaccinated, some 3 times, we have been careful and have put our own needs and desires on back burner, but we are back to a worse situation than even in spring 2000. How not to be frustrated with those who prolong this pandemic with their stupidity and egoism.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

How not to be frustrated with those who prolong this pandemic with their stupidity and egoism.

I am going skiing soon

Stupidity and egoism? 3 vaccinations. Tests a few days before the flight. Tests the day before. FFP3 mask on the airliner, and on enclosed lifts. Not doing apres-ski (never did that scene). Not doing crowded restaurants. It’s a no-brainer how to not catch this thing. Isolation is not the answer.

Somebody reading this “the world will end and we will all die” thread might just want to kill themselves – as many have done due to the lockdowns.

I am willing to wager that, with no specifics offered, no-one has actually called it “stealth Omicron” except the journalist

I would almost be concerned if the Guardian limited its BS to its typical left wing political stuff. Consistency is to be admired

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Could you explain to me (and perhaps some others here), how one can perceive “it will protect you in 70% of the cases” as just a more detailed version of “It doesn’t protect you at all” ?!?

It’s statistics. Either you are lucky, or you’re not, there is nothing in between. More like God. He will save only those who believe The others are doomed.

Anyway, it’s back to 1m here again. Restrictions on how many can attain arrangements etc. Masks in places where the 1m cannot be held and so on.

At the same time media has definitely gone nuts. No common sense left, only cries and wining for MORE restrictions. It’s surreal, completely unbelievable.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Peter wrote:

Stupidity and egoism?

You are 3 times vaccinated and you take all precautions. So why would you think this addresses you?

I am talking of people who by their conduct and refusal to vaccinate and to support the measures in place prolong this stuff and cause the need for all this measures.

Peter wrote:

Somebody reading this “the world will end and we will all die” thread might just want to kill themselves – as many have done due to the lockdowns.

And some because they can simply not see the end to it because it is prolonged by anti-vaxxers and by people refusing to do their share to stop this pandemic.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

I am talking of people who by their conduct and refusal to vaccinate and to support the measures in place prolong this stuff and cause the need for all this measures.

They aren’t reading EuroGA though. Well mostly not; I know of just one pilot who thinks this whole thing is a govt conspiracy. Some more aren’t happy about the social division according to vaccination status; what is happening in some countries is quite new since 1945. Mandatory vaccination itself isn’t new though; we had it for Polio etc and rightly so. So what’s changed? Social media has arrived! I’ve just been for a mountain bike ride and a part of it is under 400kV power lines, specially to neutralise the nanoparticles. It is 3 phase so it does it evenly, with only minimal effect on DNA.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I am going skiing soon Stupidity and egoism

I don’t see what skiing got to do with Corona. Fresh air and physical activity is definitely good for you.

However, going abroad (I guess you are not skiing in the UK ) is pretty stupid in these Omicron times. You may easily end up stranded. Lots of people stranded in SA for instance. You may also end up in a quarantine hotel and so on.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Peter wrote:

I know of just one pilot who thinks this whole thing is a govt conspiracy.

on here, oh, yea I remember now. I know a few outside here unfortunately.

Peter wrote:

Mandatory vaccination itself isn’t new though; we had it for Polio etc and rightly so. So what’s changed? Social media has arrived!

Somewhat like that. Not only though. Fake news are everywhere these days including mainstream media.

Peter wrote:

It is 3 phase so it does it evenly, with only minimal effect on DNA.

ROFL. Well, you can go under the departure sector at Hurn and grab a shower of chemtrails to desinfect your bike…

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland
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