Ibra wrote:
The amount of spilled taxpayers money On this is just huge, I am sure BASULM or Pooleys VFR plates cost less than 20milions…
As pointed out further above by @Airborne_Again 20 million € is the sum they get for handling all VFR traffic in Germany, such as maintaining FIS etc., not just for this puny publication.
But still, that amount should be sufficient to budget for publishing the AIP in a user-friendly way. It’s pretty obvious they do it this way to still make money off the more user-friendly Eisenschmidt variant.
That’s what you get when outsourcing the formerly state office of air traffic control to a GmbH (= a company). A company is inclined to make money where possible.
Ibra wrote:
There are two explanations,DFS are forced to do it and went for this c***p format with vendors having backdoor exclusive acess to good format
DFS never published VFR AIP as it was orginally in this c***p format
I am more inclined to think it’s the former
It is without doubt the former as the VFR AIP that you pay for has pdfs with vectorised charts!
wbardorf wrote:
Looks like MichaLSA already did something similar…
And somebody else put the crappy sh*t in a slightly more usable form at https://www.vfraip.de … just collecting all file links for a field under one search.
Is that the free VFR AIP but re-hosted on some privately run site? Looks nice although the charts are images.
Peter wrote:
s that the free VFR AIP but re-hosted on some privately run site?
No, it is an index of “deep links” (direct links to the right image) to the DFS-hosted AIP, with a “by ICAO code or by aerodrome name” search box.
A little helper tool http://vfraip.de/
Posted above.
BTW it should be https else you get dire browser warnings. You are serving https links via an http site which I think is OK (the other way round is a problem) but browsers are increasingly difficult with http sites.
Beg your pardon, missed it.
boscomantico wrote:
As expected, it is quite clumsy to use with all those single files. For example, if you want to look up AD2 type information for say Mainbullau airfield, you have to sort of guess where “M” might be in this pile of files and then proceed via trial and error.
It looks like that was fixed at least that’s how it appears when I look for a specific airfield now. Yay DFS?
Tango wrote:
It looks like that was fixed at least that’s how it appears when I look for a specific airfield now. Yay DFS?
It is already better indeed. On the one hand, the “AD 2 Liste der Flugplätze”, contains a bunch of links to pages of AD2, but each page is labelled only with the first aerodrome on it; the others are not mentioned at all in the index. E.g. AD 2-17 is labelled “Bitburg” but Blaubeuren, Blexen, Blomberg-Borkhausen, Blumberg and Boehlen which are on the same page are not mentioned at all; the next entry is “AD 2-18 Bohmt-Bad Essen”. So one can find an aerodrome there by seeing it is alphabetically “in between” two index entries, that’s not too bad.
On the other hand, now the entry for “AD / B / Blexen EDWT” contains a direct link to AD 2-17, so that’s direct access (by name, not ICAO code) without any guessing nor real search at all.