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Aviosuperfici in Italy threatened by new proposed regulation

It‘s not a PN, it is always a permission. But that of course was also the case with the previous regulation. It‘s private land after all.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

As long as it can remain only a PN.
Some central actor like AOPA Italy should do a central webform for all where you fill all the needed informations and just select the aviosuperficie in question.

ESMK, Sweden

No idea why it says so. ENAC is the party for which the information is collected.

Here is another aviosuperficie that has a detailed form for every flight, and the pilot has to await conformation after sending the form. At least this is a webform. The „briefing package“ is a mere 21 pages. Worse than some UK airfields…

Here is another airfield that uses essentially the same form as Bedizzole. It seems to be becoming some sort of standard used by many airfields.

Last Edited by boscomantico at 23 Mar 19:44
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

so if I get this correctly, the purpose of this form is to satisfy the customs and tax authorities.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

Crazy bureaucratic. That makes it next to impossible to do a spontaneous trip in Italy, except going to certified airfields like Aosta, Bolzano, Venecia-Lido etc. At least on paper. On the other hand, I think that many Aviosuperificie aerodromes are still operating as before and nobody feels a change. Rules in Italy seem often made to be broken in practice.

I remember flying to Enemonzo back in 2019 with a Dimona, while this airfield is ‘only’ a “Campo Volo”. The owner was very welcoming and also registered aircrafts and gliders were stationed at that airfield. And I think there are many “Campo Volo” out there, where registered aircrafts are operating from or into.

Switzerland

The first impression, about two weeks after the new regulation went in force in its entirety, is that those aviosuperfici that did go (or are currently going) the extra mile to remain approved as an aviosuperficie are tighenting up on written prior notification, often via forms created for this purpose. So it is no longer ok to “just land” at an aviosuperficie, and not even ok to just phone ahead or to send a short text message. So yet more “paperwork” when flying, as expected.

Info received from aviosuperficie Bedizzole, a very well managed pearl on the western shores of Lake Garda:

And here is a preview of their form (with lots of small print…). Of course, these plain pdf forms are a pain when one is already on a trip. At least, it is translated into English. Don’t expect all other aviosuperfici to be as well prepared as this one.

Anyway, other (previously approved) aviosuperfici may well not currently „exist“ any more at all. So check in advance if you want to use one.

Last Edited by boscomantico at 19 Mar 17:03
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

Dan wrote:

True, but also not to be overrated. Club is the correct name in this case
Nonetheless, I do have the feeling that the Swiss Aeroclub does get things done, has a decent connection to Swiss politics, and can present results, while AOPA Switzerland seems a bit “fürig”.

AOPA Germany is different, I’ve been a member while living there and had the feeling, that they get things done too. However, as a former managing director of a German flying club, I know that the German Aeroclub (DAeC) has quite some (political) influence and even higher politicians on board. The clean and liberal German airspace is one of their successful lobbying works. Nonetheless, the DAeC is more supporting the sailplane / gliding community and less the PPL pilots.
Last Edited by Frans at 19 Jan 17:08
Switzerland

In many areas they are uniting quite well.
FFPLUM is part of a European wide and indeed worldwide lobbying organisation.
I think it goes under European Sports Aviation. The FFA may also be a member of this as well as other European wide aviation groups dealing with club and light ga.
The difficulty is and always has been, that what suits one group of pilots does not suit another ie something that suits an organisation of clubs might well not be agreeable to an owner’s group.
So uniting is not the problem but unity is.

France

IMHO what’s really missing is a single and general European AOPA. And an “EAA” regrouping all the different private aviation interests. All the actual small entities have little if any power, and are usually just dismissed by the authorities and agencies.

Amen. I think it’s easier to create something new with EU/Europe agenda from the start than trying to unite the existing entities.

always learning
LO__, Austria

boscomantico wrote:

The Swiss Aeroclub seems to be a bit of an exception, doing some lobby work as we understand it.

True, but also not to be overrated. Club is the correct name in this case

IMHO what’s really missing is a single and general European AOPA. And an “EAA” regrouping all the different private aviation interests. All the actual small entities have little if any power, and are usually just dismissed by the authorities and agencies.

Dan
ain't the Destination, but the Journey
LSZF, Switzerland
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