Hello everyone (yes @Peter, I’m back to flying a little bit),
I’m planning a flight from my homebase of Villefranche-Tarare, France (LFHV) to Alzate Brianza (LILB) near Como, Italy.
Aircraft will be a DR400-140 with two persons on board, for a 3-day visit of lake Como.
I’m looking for any advice on this airfield.
Thanks!
See https://www.euroga.org/forums/hangar-talk/9899-hello-from-italy.
PPR required, but @Freddie might be able to help you with that.
Remember, it’s a slightly challenging airfield.
How do you manage to go through A class areas that lies over almost all northern Italy?
You don‘t. You go below.
But it is simply not true that there is class A over almost all north Italy. It is only over parts of the very northwest, and even there, the parts where it goes down to 2000 or 3000 feet are very small.
Which chart do you use?
boscomantico wrote:
But it is simply not true that there is class A over almost all north Italy. It is only over parts of the very northwest, and even there, the parts where it goes down to 2000 or 3000 feet are very small.Which chart do you use?
Well, yes. Such a leg from Albenga to Bergamo (or vice versa) still exactly cuts through those class A areas with low lower limits. No chance to do this higher up in VFR.
I previously discussed the Milano TMA and the various VFR options here.
Just reading it, thanks!
Actually for the first trip, I went direct through C/D class over Piacenza and Parma, and it worked nicely apart from milano radar guy who did accepted me, but once I was in (FL80), he just told me that “I shouldn’t cross this way inside approach path”, what I answered by “as you accepted me in a D-Class, I can change heading and altitude as per request”, and got no answer after that, and went FL80 until Padova approach. For the return trip, it was difficult to get high altitude until Novi Ligure, which I choose to avoid CBs over Liguria mountains by the north, but remains 3000 to 5500ft over the same D class area, which didn’t feed any issue. It was sunday evening, and got freed by Milano over Albenga to Nice Approach.
I was a bit afraid they refuse crossing the D class, but after discussion with local pilots here, that are often in Italy, they told me it’s actually straightforward, and all depends on the mood of the guys at the radio – which I can confirm.
But I didn’t take my chance over the A class :P.
@boscomantico,
Thanks for your valuable advice. I contacted @Freddie via PM and was already in contact with AVL aeroclub, which operates the platform. We’ll land with 2 POB and approx. 80 liters fuel in a DR400-140. I’ll start planning around class-A airspace with 2 options : via Swiss GAFOR route or via direct arrival from west.
To answer your question regarding which chart I use: I use SkyDemon with AirMillion paper for route planning and backup.
Thumbs up!