All this seems very complicated.
When I was based in EBLG (EU-SHENGEN-EURO zones), 2 years ago, I could easily fly to UK, Switzerland and about anywhere in my reach.
I made a 2 hour flight to Lausanne (to say hello to @Flyingfish;-) in 2012. Now, I would either need to land in EBLG (10 minutes from EBST my home base) and pay around 150€ for landing, handling, etc., or make a stop in LFGJ or LFSP (with PN) before landing in LSGL. You can add at least 1 hour to the flight.
I have been flying to several french airports last year. I never minded about which one was Customs enabled or not. And never was bothered. I guess I can still freely fly in UE-SHENGEN zones whiteout PPR,PN. My last flight out of Belgium flight was to EDLW (thanks @Boscomantico) with just a FPL. I was not jailed.
When I read this thread, I wonder what is most difficult to be a pilot : get your flying licence or understand how you can fly from point A to point B.
I will soon be retired, I want to share my passion with my wife (who is not at all a GA flying addict), so I will soon review my missions: flying to remote, hard to drive to, non Ryanair airfields.
Jean wrote:
I have been flying to several french airports last year. I never minded about which one was Customs enabled or not. And never was bothered. I guess I can still freely fly in UE-SHENGEN zones whiteout PPR,PN. My last flight out of Belgium flight was to EDLW (thanks @Boscomantico) with just a FPL. I was not jailed.
And you are right. The general rule still is that intra-Schengen, intra-EU flights do not require any customs/immigration.
The exceptions are NOTAMed. Like this one:
E1109/17 NOTAM
Q) LFFF/FAXX/IV/NBO / A /000/999/4750N00329E
A) LFLA
B) 2017-04-08 15:59 C) 2017-07-31 23:59
E) CUSTOMS: FOR ANY FLIGHT CROSSING A BORDER : PPR CUSTOMS COMPULSORY
REFERS CHART AD2 LFLA TXT 02
There are very few of them (one less since Colmar went back to normal)
I would ask myself the question about this one too:
B8127/16 NOTAM
Q) LFBB/FALT/IV/NBO / A /000/999/4551N00110E
A) LFBL
B) 2016-12-19 10:08 C) 2017-07-31 23:59
E) NON SKED INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS: PPR 24HR TO AD MANAGER.
So I called AD OPS who confirm that intra-EU, intra-Schengen flights require 24 hrs prior notice (I asked specifically for a flight from Limoges to San Sebastian).
So stay away from Auxerre and Limoges if you plan a flight crossing the borders of France, or comply with the NOTAM.
Aviathor wrote:
So stay away from Auxerre and Limoges if you plan a flight crossing the borders of France, or comply with the NOTAM.
For example by doing a touch-and-go at some neighbouring airfield before you land at one of the two.
Such arrangements have existed in France but one needs to have a relationship with the staff in the tower Well, maybe not that kind of relationship, although that would probably be effective
However, the Shoreham to Pontoise scheduled service used to T&G at LFAT, so it had to be “official”.
Greetings from Colmar. I just called 5 phone numbers today in order to have the 24 hour PN requirement waived and then sent a declaration by email in order to make my landing here legal. Phoning works, if you manage to get hold of the right person…
The NOTAM is below. Notice the PN 24HR requirement is now limited to Extra Schengen or Extra EU flights, not for ANY international flight as it was until recently.
LFFA-B0860/17
Q) LFEE/QFZAP/IV/NBO/ A/000/999/4807N00722E005
A) LFGA COLMAR HOUSSEN
B) 2017 Feb 16 15:59 C) PERM
E) DOUANE:
POUR TOUT VOL TRANSFRONTALIER EXTRA SCHENGEN OU EXTRA UNION
EUROPEENNE PN 24HR.
TEL: 09 70 27 74 02
FAX: 03 87 36 00 84
MAIL: CLI-METZ(A)DOUANE.FINANCES.GOUV.FR