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ADHD query for a LAPL

Anyone else tried to get a LAPL with adhd? Did anyone have any luck/what did you have to go through?

I’m just glad we don’t have the FAA, they ban ADHD outright…

Had a look at the CAA guidelines for ADHD and it says you must undergo an neuropsych exam for ADHD, yet my AME seems to think that having a consultation will suffice. That’ll be interesting to see. I’ve got options on the table for both luckily.

Last Edited by Toby at 04 Sep 10:09
EGKR, United Kingdom

I don’t think the FAA bans it outright but, from vague memory, you have to get a psychiatrist diagnosis which more or less overturns the previous one.

Much aviation medicine is obsolete. The CAAs are stuffed with 90 year old cardiologists, for example.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Ahh okay. AME just got back to me and I need to get some more documents about some other conditions I have. Looks like I’m waiting on the GP again.

Last Edited by Toby at 04 Sep 20:18
EGKR, United Kingdom

Much aviation medicine is obsolete. The CAAs are stuffed with 90 year old cardiologists, for example.

+1 to that.

France

Interesting and good to know about that. Not entirely surprised.

Looks like I might end up paying a lot to show I’m fit to fly given all these conditions (autism, adhd, dyspraxia – not seen much about that anywhere, tourettes)

Hooray..

EGKR, United Kingdom

Almost nobody posts openly about their aviation medical “journey” because the CAAs read forums all day

And yes it can be expensive. Lots of pilots paid out 5k on their “cardio journey”, which is a common thing due to poor dietary habits within the GA community. In fact most just give up.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Forget the money. The medical demands on people doing a leisure activity for fun and have become ridiculous. The standard forms filling and dossiers that have to made up each year, must make a mountain of paper stored at the medical departments of NAAs. Unless of course someone is employed to put all these things on computer. And then it becomes a costly waste of a forest or 2.

The reason I say forget the cost is that most of us would have an ECG (which only tells you what has happened not.what is going to happen) or whatever tests are needed out of survival instinct. Or at least I hope that most pilots would. And why would your GP, cardiologist, opthamologist know less about your health and abilities than an AME who sees you once a year or the NAA medical committee who sit once every 3 months all they know of you is a bunch of medical data and doctor’s notes.

Last Edited by gallois at 06 Sep 08:28
France

Forget the money.

How? You have to get your medical. Or fly on whatever national medical concession. In the UK, for example, these conditions prevent the use of the PMD.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Yea I’m finding the cost is going up and up… heh. But in all fairness I think it’s just the assessment I’ll need then I’ll be okay.

AME has said once he works out a plan for us, he will come back to me.

Whilst that’s happening my GP surgery are being slow in sending me documents about my (already resolved) Lung problems.

EGKR, United Kingdom

Perhaps "forget the money " was not the thing to write. I was considering.that if I do have a medical problem however much it costs, if possible most people in Europe have arrangements to cover the costs either through a state health service or an insurance or both.
I do not really have a problem with paying an AME €75 a year to give me the once over and sign a form saying I am okay to fly.
Or even to remind you as your GP might that you haven’t, say had/ provided a blood test for t a while.
What does annoy me is that you go to the AME with a note from your opthamologist saying that your eyesight is 20/20 or you need this or those prescription lenses etc. Don’t need another test for 5 years. All of which has been carried out on precision equipment. Yet the AME still does an eye test on a chart at the other end of a room where reflections shine on it from a window or is lit by a fluorescent light. Or you have a heart procedure. The cardiologist has done all the test and says you are as good as new, come back in a few years and we’ll have another look.
But this isn’t good enough for the AME despite you providing all the notes. The AME still does an ECG even if you’ve only had an ECG the day before and handed the results to the AME.
The AME can still demand further tests, which are not thought necessary by your specialists at a cost (I agree)
Although the AME may sign your medical so that you can fly all that information is now packaged up and sent off to the NAA’s medical department.
Some weeks later your proper printed and stamped medical arrives with notes of what you need before your next medical even when your GP, cardiologist, opthamologist, hearing specialist etc think is a waste of yours and their time. So you have to pay for this as private treatment.
This is on top of filling in the same form each year with questions such as have you had any cardio intervention? Answer Yes why do you think you have a dossier several feet high full of X rays, dopplers, blood tests, ecgs both resting and during exercise.
And it does seem to be getting more bureaucratic year by year whilst at the same time one has to travel further afield to find an AME as many have given up the role as they don’t like to be told how they should do the job they have been doing for years, or they are retiring due to age and not being replaced. In this area it is proving really difficult to replace retiring GPs let alone those that registered as AMEs.
I well understand why so many are turning to ULM. There’s no point turning to LAPL because pretty much all the same applies, here.

France
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