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ivark wrote:

maybe in theory, but in practice you need an ATO for that

A DTO will do just as well.

LeSving wrote:

VFR night from LAPL requires a bit more instructing than from PPL. And that’s the thing. If you have LAPL, then take VFR night rating, then you have all instructions needed for PPL, and can get it with just a check ride (I think, but may be mistaken).

I think you need to cover Basic Instrument Flying from PPL (EX19) as in FCL.810 for Night rating on a LAPL, I knew that some had their applications bounced by UK CAA because LAPL holder had 5h night course but failed to cover EX19 (similar, I had a French Brevet de Base with “night endorsement”, the night signature was lost in LAPL translation due to lack of night cross-country Ex20 & basic instrument flying time Ex19 )

LAPL should cover 90% of fun flying for 3 years but honestly if starting from scratch & have C2 medical it is same effort as PPL?

And how many people fly out of Europe? And if your based anywhere north of Watford how many people fly outside of the UK.

The privileges of the lapl cover what 98% of flyers actually need.

I think that if you could get a lapl using a medical declaration it would be a real winner.

The LAPL is also no good for outside Europe, and AFAIK is no good for getting a 61.75 piggyback FAA PPL so you cannot do a trip in the US and fly out there a bit.

LeSving wrote:

can get it with just a check ride (I think, but may be mistaken).

maybe in theory, but in practice you need an ATO for that and all ATO-s I have asked require 10h flight at their plane – which where I live means C150 @200EUR/h. With my LAPL+night I have theoretical interest in PPL, (because of BIR), but there always seems something more urgent or interesting that need money. OK, now that our club also has ATO,maybe they can count glider towing with Wilga as LAPL-PPL training :)

Peter wrote:

I think the LAPL, being sub-ICAO, is a potential dead end in various ways

The easy “upgrade” from LAPL to PPL makes it worth while. The only thing you cannot do with LAPL is IFR, and from LAPL to PPL is maybe 5% of the “work” compared with from PPL to PPL-IFR. It’s not a dead end in any way at all, potential or real. It’s just a (slightly) simpler way to fly VFR, which 99% of PPL pilots do in any case.

VFR night from LAPL requires a bit more instructing than from PPL. And that’s the thing. If you have LAPL, then take VFR night rating, then you have all instructions needed for PPL, and can get it with just a check ride (I think, but may be mistaken).

I echo the other comments, if practical differences isn’t material, go for the full PPL. Guys here are experienced and talk with years and years of practical experience! Maybe the required hours are lower on paper för LAPL, but you seldom do just the required hours and you also learn more with more hours.

Of course, if LAPL is the only possible way, go for it! Best of luck…and report back! :-)

If the exams are the same, and the flight training is the same (if not the same I bet it will end up the same by the time you reach the skills test standard) then the only saving is the medical, which a GP can do.

But is a GP medical “safer” than an AME medical? I don’t think so, because a GP has your whole medical file, from the ingrowing toenail you had when you were 5 Whereas your AME may get a copy of your GP records initially (AIUI, post-Germanwings, they do this certainly for an initial Class 1 nowadays but not for a Class 2) but he won’t be getting it afterwards, even though you always sign a document allowing him to do so. I guess this is debatable both ways. Certainly I used to know a German pilot (Class 1, ATPL) who proudly told his AME basically nothing.

I think the LAPL, being sub-ICAO, is a potential dead end in various ways. But then I am seeing this from the point of view of somebody who has spent 20 years chasing after various pilot papers (JAA PPL, night, IMCR, FAA PPL, FAA IR, FAA CPL, LAPL, EASA IR) and often wondered who is going to screw him on what. One soon finds that covering one’s 6 o’clock is generally a good idea in aviation

Around Europe, most private pilots have decided the same and few are doing the LAPL.

The writtne exams for the LAPL and the PPL are exactly the same.

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