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Priming bare aluminium? - suggestions please

This RV14 build is worth a read. They are using Ekocrylic from Stewart Systems. Whether you can get it where you are is another matter.

Why they chose it I don’t know. @jwoolard may know more.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

We used EP420 epoxy primer in our RV10. It comes in White or Green, and we bought it from http://www.aircraftcoverings.co.uk/

Fairoaks/EGTF

The whole subject of corrosion protection is a lot deeper than just what to spray on a bit of alloy sheet, take a look at FAA AC 43-4B to find out far more than you ever wanted to know.

Jujupilote wrote:

I guess what you call primer is this yellowish paint

Considering true anti-corrosive pigments are used (that this is not some “look alike”, which it very well might be), that yellow is strontium chromate. That greenish is zinc chromate.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Best thing for outdoors is ACF50. OTOH you can’t apply it in the cockpit area (always liquid, etc).

But yes the yellow/green is a primer. Internally it is mostly left without additional paint applied.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

That’s a cessna but I guess what you call primer is this yellowish paint ? Our mechanics spray it outside with a mask. Everything accessible is sprayed because our planes are parked outside.

LFOU, France

At Vans Air Force there is entire section called “primer wars”. Every single builder has it’s own opinion regarding priming of internal parts. The only general thing to say about it, is the rather disatisfying: it’s a personal thing, do whatever makes you feel OK.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

I think a lot depends on whether you intend to prime it yourself and what protective equipment you have. My understanding is that many of these substances are truly nasty… For something that’s internal, does it matter so much?

Personally I tend to use Tetrosyl etch primer after scuffing the aluminium with Scotchbrite and degreasing with Acetone. You don’t want to scuff alclad too vigorously or you will rub through the pure aluminium layer that protects the more vulnerable alloy beneath.

I gather that you then need a thin coat of something harder on top both to seal the primer and to provide some protection from moisture. But I’m not an expert… Part of the reason I’m putting this forward is for somebody to put me right if I’m on the wrong path. But when I looked into it it did seem a safer substance than many of the alternatives.

By9468840 wrote:

This stuff is perfrect for zinc chromate spraying the parts the glue remover strips away. You can order it in Europe.
https://www.aircraftspruce.eu/a-702-valspar-primer-green.htm

That is zinc phosphate, not zinc chromate. Zinc phosphate works on steel (to some extent), but has no active pigment that prevents corrosion on aluminium.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

My understanding from those who do it professionally is that zinc chromate is not something one would choose for performance reasons, and that it tends to be used where you want authenticity e.g. restoring a WW2 aircraft.

For performance, use an epoxy primer.

A search for e.g.

prime*

digs out previous threads.

Epoxy paints are not at all UV resistant so the primer (alone) is ok for interior spaces. Outside, it needs another coat (which usually needs a UV lacquer but that’s another story).

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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