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Seven crashes in as many days (same aircraft and pilot)

Certainly the FAA is pretty level headed. I was living in the USA when JFK Jr. crashed, and there was a massive press outrage. “The USA is the only country in the world that allows PPLs to fly at night without a night rating!!!1111eleventyone” Talking heads for days going on about how terrible this is, and how the rest of the world is so much better.

After 2 days, the press had forgotten, and the FAA did nothing, as nothing was warranted.

Last Edited by alioth at 17 Nov 09:12
Andreas IOM

Regulators are usually more level headed, yet a balant case like this will also cause bad vibes with them.

I have not seen any examples of that. What I have seen lots of examples of are risk averse regulators doing all kinds of highly theoretical preemptive regulatory work to make GA “safer”.

There are several camps in GA. Some are in the dulled down and “serious” camp. Others are in the “free as a bird” camp. Some are in the “adrenaline” camp, while others are in the “professional/expert” camp and so on. Obviously also there is a “complete insane” camp

What I meant was that stubborn “oddball” goats are in every camp, and lots of them. They all use every opportunity to point out why their camp is better than the other: if you do that, then you create a bad image on me, kind of arguments instead of, “you do that, I prefer this”.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Pig wrote:

The Darwin awards have once again been cheated …

So much for natural selection…

Hence my point, this guy’s persistence worked also through each one of the accidents where he was fighting all the way to the final outcome…and it (almost) totally paid off.

Who was it that said how important it was to fight and fly all the way through the crash?

Antonio
LESB, Spain

BeechBaby wrote:

Bet you do not have this….

I am pretty sure I once saw something like that in Asturias ;) …@UdorR would know!

Antonio
LESB, Spain

The Darwin awards have once again been cheated …

Pig
If only I’d known that….
EGSH. Norwich. , United Kingdom

UdoR wrote:

there are more than 100 sayings and meanings of “cojones” (balls)

Bet you do not have this….

Fly safe. I want this thing to land l...
EGPF Glasgow

Antonio wrote:

Don’t know about the swearing, but probably right about the sayings!

Definitely right. For example, there are more than 100 sayings and meanings of “cojones” (balls) in the Spanish language, and for those who understand a bit of Spanish, this! might be quite funny. It is a good example of that differences e.g. between German and Spanish couldn’t be bigger. Here in Germany we (try to) use the exact right one single word for a thing, and that single word might have 100 letters or more. In Spain it’s more like a competition to find the most funny word where still the majority gets what is meant to be. I really like this way of humour, it makes conversation a lot more interesting

Last Edited by UdoR at 16 Nov 10:30
Germany

LeSving wrote:

How can one person damage the whole GA flight scene?

In todays anti GA climate, it depends how this thing is being publicized. If it goes on big letter papers or larger TV, it will give those who seek amunition one more prominent case to talk about. Regulators are usually more level headed, yet a balant case like this will also cause bad vibes with them.

Clearly, one bad pilot doesn’t represent the flock. But in an environment as GA finds itself as much here as in the US, nobody needs idiots like this.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

@lsving I think in a sense you may have answered your own oddball conundrum. Every GA incident dents public confidence and particularly in the States there is a large anti sentiment. Airfields have been closing at a continuously high rate. Every piece of bad PR gives ammunition to the anti aviation lobby. In the UK the Shoreham crash had a severe impact on the flight display scene. We have spent hours on EuroGA reviewing the Sala case and the behaviours in that scenario. All this dents public confidence and in an industry that is pretty challenged and will continue to be we really do not need very whacky and oddball idiots promoting the cause that the majority of the scene is populated by oddballs. Just my 2c from the oddball camp

Fly safe. I want this thing to land l...
EGPF Glasgow

Money can’t buy skill. Or common sense apparently.

Reminds me of this guy who put a Ferrari in the water with a heavy right foot.



Last Edited by Canuck at 15 Nov 23:36
Sans aircraft at the moment :-(, United Kingdom
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