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Is there a reference for this regulation?

It seems odd because

  • 8.33 is not mandatory for VFR
  • there are aircraft types which are patently not IFR capable
  • the workaround (of installing the same type) is so trivial, and will merely support the market price for shagged old radios
  • on most old planes there is no record when a particular radio was installed, so if another non-8.33 model magically appears one day, nobody will be able to question it – especially if you change the maintenance company for the next service

All such a rule will do is make the sellers of old junk on US Ebay rub their hands and shift otherwise worthless boxes to Europe at premium prices plus, Sir, $300 for DHL Express which is the only delivery option we offer, Sir

Last Edited by Peter at 16 Nov 17:26
Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Well, it is not my idea, so don’t shoot the messenger.

Have a look at articles 4 and 5, and appendix 1 of this document.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=OJ:L:2012:320:0014:0024:EN:PDF

JP-Avionics
EHMZ

I was asking for a reference, not shooting the messenger

We don’t shoot people on EuroGA

You are right, though (without going through all the detailed text carefully) I can’t see the rule which allows a same-model non-8.33 replacement, but a different model replacement has to be 8.33, and it is effective right now.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Well you’ve got some hours left :-P

It goes into force tomorrow.

From article 4.4: “owners of radios shall ensure that from 17 November 2013 their radios include the 8,33 kHz channel spacing capability whenever they are subject to radio upgrades. "

In the definitions an upgrade is " ‘radio upgrade’ means the replacement of a radio by a radio of a different model or part number; "

Repairing the old radio or replace is with the same P/N is not meet the definition of upgrade.

JP-Avionics
EHMZ

All such a rule will do is make the sellers of old junk on US Ebay rub their hands and shift otherwise worthless boxes to Europe at premium prices plus, Sir, $300 for DHL Express which is the only delivery option we offer, Sir

I happen to know somebody on EuroGA with a US shipping address, should anybody find themselves getting a bad deal in that regard. $300 shipping for a $400 value radio would surely dictate a better plan.

BTW, checking EBay earlier I was surprised to see new, unused Narco displays available for about $200 depending on type.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 16 Nov 18:36

Our maintenance company happened to have a Narco 810 sitting on the self (and I suspect from some right off). It was a straight swap and worked first time.

Now the 8.33 only upgrade has come comes into force lets just hope that we don’t have any more radio failures and no doubt if we do we will simply get it repaired.

I have no hesitation in stating that I would love to update all our radios. However with the costs of RF to ATO status currently hanging over our heads we will have to make do for the time being.

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