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Garmin GNC 255 or TRIG 56/57 NAV/COM

after six months in the workshop

Unbelievable. Only in GA…

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Thank you all for your advice. So in October i settled for the TX56, being attracted by the joint visibility and NAV and COM on the front display, the benefits of this being brought home due to my GNS530W failing during IRR ILS lessons. So I ordered the TX56 which was on six weeks delivery. I also decided (since the panel was being pulled apart) to have a Garmin Flightstream 210 Idelivery 1 week) and Goltze ADL200 installed (a refurbished ADL200 was available within 1 week at a very good price). My first ever avionics “upgrade” journey therefore initiated.

All equipment arrived as promised but then had to wait for technician availability. When it came to installing the Trig bracket is was found to be damaged so a replacement was requested which took a few weeks and of course the technician became otherwise engaged. Tragically the atual radio was not checked and it transpired that it also has suffered mechanical damage so anor moth’s delay ensured. Meanwhile the GNS530W was send to Garmin (they have a fix for circa £1k service) which was returned in 8 weeks having had a PCB replaced and all firmware upgraded.

Finally last week of April the aircraft was returned to service. Given the work carried out and my loss of currency a short trip with an instructor for safety was arranged. Sadly while advised all was good the GNS530W still had an intermittent transmit fault. So back to the workshop and after further investigation an intermittent short was discovered in the antenna connection. No doubt this may well have contributed to the initial GNS530W fault that initiated the drive to upgrade the old 25KHz transceiver.

After being rectified last Friday after two flights it seems I finally after six months in the workshop have good COM 1 and COM 2 set up. I am very pleased with the Trig TX56 and would be happy to recommend it. The avionics technician said he had never before experienced a Trig product failure or defect so I guess I was unlucky. My IR-R training and flying proficiency have sadly suffered so more instructor time due. Sadly an occasional Autopilot self test fail has now become permanent. No reason to suspect this is related to the recently completed work but I’ll start a new thread re the KFC 150 matter!

ETGR, United Kingdom

What I don’t like on the GNC255 is that you need to push the C/N button to see the NAV frequency it adds up to the workload during an instrument approach. Unless you have glass panel where you can see the LOC frequency remotely. I chose to replace my 165 with a 165-8.33. Trig doesn’t have this issue all frequencies are visible……Also the King has better audio quality then the Garmin unit (this is a subjective statement of course). Don’t know about the Trig..?

EBST

Apologies – poor terminology on my part. Yes you are correct however I presumed the data required has to be entered into the spreadsheet to create the CSV file for upload – hence “manual entry” or is there some means by which the frequencies and presumably station identifiers can be readily obtained in CSV format?

ETGR, United Kingdom

Steven_P wrote:

I am therefore rather drawn to the benefits of a solid embedded database rather than something I have to input (with potential for errors and of course time) as with the TRIG 56/57.

You don’t need to enter them manually, they can be uploaded in CSV format from a USB drive. Unfortunately, TX56’s memory is limited to 200 COM and 200 NAV stations, so you may have to upload a different set of stations when flying far away from the home base.

LKBU (near Prague), Czech Republic

Thank you all for your comments; very much appreciated. The Garmin does require a subscription of $25 per year for the comms database. My GNS 530W failed during IR(R) ILS training at Southend while on 05 base leg, an event which turned into a useful secondary training exercise! I am therefore rather drawn to the benefits of a solid embedded database rather than something I have to input (with potential for errors and of course time) as with the TRIG 56/57. I will read through both user guides and make a decision subject to delivery time. While the panel is open I will also have the workshop install a Flight Stream 210 which will of course means deciding Garmin Pilot or Foreflight given I now use Sky Demon.

ETGR, United Kingdom

I would buy anything other than Garmin if it’s reasonable to do so. Buying from Garmin is like a game of chess in which their objective is to gain your commitment before you realize that they have found a way to extract more money from you now, or over time, or when planned obsolescence kicks in.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 16 Aug 16:12

I was only referring to the time I was into the evaluation. It appears the long time from announcement to availability is partly due to extended functionality.

Germany

MichaLSA wrote:

TX56, but abandoned the idea as it only offers NAV/VOR/ILS and support for CDI only – no GS

Then why does it have a “Built in 40 channel glideslope receiver”…? (See https://www.trig-avionics.com/product/stack-nav-com/)

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

The TX56 does include standard glideslope output to a CDI so can replace a KX155 or SL30

TX56/56A and TX57/57A Installation Manual 5 April 2022. https://www.trig-avionics.com/library/01776-00-01%20AD%20TX56%20TX56A%20and%20TX57%20TX57A%20Installation%20Manual%20-%20June%202022.pdf

Nav CDI outputs
OBS resolver outputs
DME interface
Superflags Back course
ILS energise
Switched power
Issue AD
Conventional two wire C/H output to drive the external OBS.
King style Data/Clock/Request/Common interface to channel an external DME.
Nav and glideslope superflag outputs.
Annunciator output when Nav receiver is in localiser back-course mode.
Output active when an ILS is tuned.
Switched power output for nav indicator or other accessories.
Left/Right, To/From, Up/Down, and flag output

Last Edited by wigglyamp at 15 Aug 21:11
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