Did you ever get the bill? I’m interested in this one…
No charges so far. I will let you know if I get a bill in the mail.
So we did exactly as described in the AIP. Called the OPS help desk at LVNL, called the flow manager and both had no problems with us coming. Got arrival and departure slots from the dutch slot coordinating agency.
LVNL also called me back 30 min before the EOBT to say everything was set for out arrival. Got an ILS 22 and then a missed approach to the east.
Thanks for your feedback. I will call all the numbers from the AIP and see what I can achieve. Yes, the reason is that traffic is low and they might actually let it happen. :-)
I will report back how it went.
Lelystad is indeed VFR only during daylight hours
Any reason for EHAM in particular?
Other civil controlled airfields in NL (EHRD, EHGG, EHBK) are also open for IR training, are used to it and are reasonably priced. A typical training sortie out of EHRD would be an INKET1B departure, break-off around PS, direct to ROT for some holds/airwork, then the full procedure for a VOR24, straight out & procedure turn, RNP06 with circle-to-land 24, vectors for the ILS24. All in less than an hour, and with excellent assistance from Approach & Tower mixing you with anything from VFR circuit training traffic to commercial airliners. I have the same experience at EHGG and EHBK.
EHLE, as far as I know, doesn’t allow IFR flights (training or not) during the daytime, but you’d have to check that. I have not been there since they went controlled.
At EHAM you’ll likely need to use 04/22, but the approaches and departures from that runway interfere with the approaches and departures from 09/27 and 18L/36R. Combined with your relatively slow speed, this makes you a pain in the * for ATC. You can argue that that’s their problem – and it is – but it still means they’ve got to vector both you and other traffic around to line them up with proper spacing. Which equals to training time wasted.
On the other hand, with the reduced traffic numbers at EHAM due to covid-19, if there’s ever a time to do it, it’s now.
Give them a call, most CAT airports looking to survive (and ATC looking to keep job & currency) would welcome such flight these days….
I have done similar flights from France to Jersey & Ostend recently, low pass no landing, zero issues, 2*FPL and that’s it !
I’m not instrument rated, so I have no idea about IFR flights, but due to current events, Schiphol has been very relaxed lately for VFR flights wanting to cross the CTR and even do touch and go’s.
Hello Thomas!
Have you tried calling the airport directly and asking? I’m sure they’ll be able to tell you.
From the pilot’s notes on SkyDemon, it seems like approach, landing and handling with a light GA aircraft costs in the order of 300 EUR.
But they don’t say what it would coust for someone who simply wants to fly the approach and not land, presumably much less. I would also make sure to mention that it would be a TRAINING flight, it may be cheaper than if it was a general flight.
