Can we please not have any links to Reddit posted here

Peter wrote:

they clearly have a policy to allow porn

So? Porn is not illegal in many countries. Why should a platform operator in a free world ban anything which is not illegal?

Peter wrote:

here is software around which identifies that kind of material

Which software is able to determine if a photo of a naked body was a) not taken with consent and/or is b) not published with consent of the person on the picture! No software in the world can do this!
There is software to identify underage porn (which is banned in almost all countries) and as far as I know reddit is using such software.

Again: Telegram could apply such software as well and did a conscious business decision not to use it. Telegram supports groups as well and could close such groups but only very rarely does it.
The only real difference between reddit and telegram is that for telegram you need to use a proprietary client whereas reddit is accessed by a web browser. Is that really a moral difference?

Peter wrote:

was buying porn videotapes via the postal system.

Often used but never right analogy: The difference is that for the postal system there simply is no feasible technical way to control all messages and filter out those with illegal content. For telegram (and reddit as you write yourself) there is and therefore it is a simple business decision of telegram not to use it

chflyer wrote:

The source of the problem is allowing such a photo to be taken in the first place. That’s the implicit consent.

While I agree that these days you have to expect that every picture could make it into the public, I strongly oppose to that: It is not implicit consent to publication if you share a picture with somebody else or let somebody else take such.
While it is easy to publish it, it is still illegal and should be sanctioned significantly.

I think the post that @alioth made with the reference to the Reddit post was fine. He summarised the contents of a long post and thread into a “tl;dr” (too long; didn’t read in Reddit parlance) and posted it here.

I see the point, but just because Reddit has some dodgy subs it doesn’t mean that Reddit links here should be banned, IMO.

The OP of this thread isn’t exactly “news” anyway.

Peter wrote:

We’ve had peoplee here in years past argue that everything should be allowed here too, short of material which will result in litigation.

But that’s a different matter. Deciding what material is allowed on a particular platform is one thing. Refusing links to another platform because they don’t agree with your policy decisions is quite another.

Reddit is a bit like Usenet of old – it isn’t a specific subject forum (like EuroGA, where porn would clearly be inappropriate – just as threads on Brexit are inappropriate here). It isn’t 10k to 100k posts a day, Reddit is tens of millions of posts a day with tens of thousands of forums (think the equivalent of “Usenet newsgroups”). Like the internet as a whole, or Usenet of old, not every forum on Reddit will be everyone’s cup of tea.

Reddit do make a concerted effort at shutting down illegal material, and often court controversy in doing so. They are also pretty transparent about how they go about it. They did shut down the cited “revenge porn” subreddit once it came to their attention. But like Usenet, Reddit isn’t a curated forum.

It is only very occasional that there are links to Reddit’s /r/flying, I think there have been just two I’ve seen in the last year. I always try to direct European users of /r/flying here (as /r/flying is very US-centric like most GA forums, and I think most European pilots will get better discussion/answers here).

Peter wrote:

Who doesn’t agree with “my policy decisions”?

Let me phrase it in this way. “Their policy decisions do not agree with yours”.

Thanks Peter!!! It is great to find people who do have some real morale and do not accept everything. The world would be much better if all people in general would try to behave well, which naturally will never happen. But something being legal sure does not make it good or even acceptable.
I do not even know what this reddit is and of course we do not have to click possible links – but I admire Peter’s point of view to not help questionable site to get more money. They get money through advertisements and theoretically every click adds a little to it.

In addition there is the other danger: if you let links be added here, some day text or picture will be quoted here .. and little by little it may run out of hands. Better be safe than sorry.

hanski wrote:

I do not even know what this reddit is and of course we do not have to click possible links – but I admire Peter’s point of view to not help questionable site to get more money.

I know what reddit is and I don’t agree it is a questionable site.