Joke a side,
atc: say altitude, pilot: altitude
atc: say speed, pilot: speed
atc: say cancel ifr, pilot: flying FL100 at 200kts
I don’t actually get it but it reminds me of
School: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids say Good Morning
College: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids ignore him
Univ: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids write it down
“Request flight information service” (said inside the UK)
“Request basic service” (said outside the UK)
“Request traffic service” (said to a non-radar unit in the UK)
“Request deconfliction service” (said to a non-radar unit in the UK)
“Request deconfliction service” (said to a radar unit when flying VFR in the UK)
“Request procedural service” (said to a radar unit in the UK)
James, you mad a couple of mistakes – let me fix them for you
“Request basic service” (said outside the UK anywhere)
“Request deconfliction service” (said to a radar unit when flying VFR in the UK)
James_Chan wrote:
“Request basic service”
Request QNH setting is much accurate description of what you get
Getting back to some concrete examples, why do London Control say “descend to altitude 5000ft” while Salzburg Approach say “descend 5000ft” like just about everybody else – as per the video I posted?
Peter wrote:
why do London Control say “descend to altitude 5000ft” while Salzburg Approach say “descend 5000ft” like just about everybody else
“descend to” is the more natural way of saying it, but the correct way is to skip “to” altogether.
I feel UK phraseology very clumsy, despite the booking in/boooking out/PPR that should reduce the chatter.
As usual in aviation,
US set the standard
EASA puts together a rule, that has to be different, with good and bad stuff
Countries set up a mix of their-own-way and EASA rule
UK put up its own way of things, with plenty of prior permission, pre-declaration , and 0 interest in public safety
“descend to” is the more natural way of saying it, but the correct way is to skip “to” altogether.
Depends what you mean by “corrrct”
It’s not what ICAO, EASA, Eurocontrol or the CAA say.
Peter wrote:
School: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids say Good Morning
College: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids ignore him
Univ: teacher walks in and says Good Morning; the kids write it down
I’ve saw this first some 30 years ago in this variant:
1960s, teacher walks in and says Good Morning: The students say Good Morning.
1970s, teacher walks in and says Good Morning: The students say GOOD MORNING COMRADE.
1980s, teacher walks in and says Good Morning: The students write it down.