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For Italy, they are not.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

I have flown for months with Air Navigation Pro around Italy, now is working well

Italy

Yes, but that is merely because in the meantime, Italy has (finally) devised an ICAO-compliant stucture for their big TMAs. As a consequence, all TMA “sectors” are now clearly (textually) defined in the AIP, which made it easy for the AirNavPro people to implement them in their database.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

I agree with the comment about checking AIP SUP. Usually NOTAMS will cover you, but not in France. Most apps provide NOTAMs but not AIP SUP for airspace restrictions, so the info needs to be obtained elsewhere.

LSZK, Switzerland

chflyer wrote:

I agree with the comment about checking AIP SUP. Usually NOTAMS will cover you, but not in France. Most apps provide NOTAMs but not AIP SUP for airspace restrictions, so the info needs to be obtained elsewhere.

In theory, it may be true that one has to scan all the SUPs. In practice, Skydemon has been parsing any Temporary Restricted or Prohibited Areas promulgated by SUP etc. into their map very reliably. Just a few very recent examples:

2024-068: ZIT over GAP
2024-069: 99 ZITs all across France
2024-070: North of Lyon ZIT
2024-071: Solenzara ZIT

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

The AIP SUPs are available on the SOFIA website. If you create your narrow route and then go to Notams you get all NOTAMS which the route will pass through plus the number of the AIP SUP. You can then easily look the number up in the AIP SUP.

France

In theory, it may be true that one has to scan all the SUPs. In practice, Skydemon has been parsing any Temporary Restricted or Prohibited Areas promulgated by SUP etc. into their map very reliably

Thanks Bosco, that’s good to know.

Spain is modernizing:

https://insigniavfr.enaire.es/

The user interface is not great, but will likely improve over time. The ‘layers’ symbol provides further relevant data.

Here’s a shot of Mallorca. Interesting to see that it shows a NOTAM just South of Palma CTR which is not (yet?) showing in SD.


Last Edited by aart at 23 Apr 07:26
Private field, Mallorca, Spain

aart wrote:

Interesting to see that it shows a NOTAM just South of Palma CTR which is not (yet?) showing in SD.

It shows for me. Did you set a flight date/time in SD when the NOTAM is active?

Last Edited by Airborne_Again at 23 Apr 08:47
ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

It shows for me. Did you set a flight date/time in SD when the NOTAM is active?

No I did not and after I did, it indeed shows, thanks. SD does show other NOTAMs without setting a date but supposedly with less advance notice than the Insignia app.

Private field, Mallorca, Spain

aart wrote:

SD does show other NOTAMs without setting a date but supposedly with less advance notice than the Insignia app.

I believe (but haven’t checked) that is shows NOTAMs for today and tomorrow.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden
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