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Flying into French Language Only (FR-only) airfields (and French ATC ELP)

TBH in your case I wouldn’t bother with it, its your mother tongue which is one of the official 3 languages in Belgium. You got your RT privileges (or will get them) on your license that should do.

LFHN - Bellegarde - Vouvray France

Does this notam mean that Tours LFOT is FR-only on Sundays?

B1133/22
‘TOURS VAL DE LOIRE’ ATS HOURS OF OPS :
MON, THU, FRI : 0700-1000, 1100-1500
TUE : 0700-1000, 1100-1300, 1330-1600
WED : 0700-1030, 1130-1400, 1430-1600
SAT : 0630-1745
SUN : NOT PROVIDED.
FROM: 28 MAR 2022 00:00 TO: 30 APR 2022 23:59

B1524/22
TOURS VAL DE LOIRE AFIS HOURS:
MON, THU, FRI:0600-0700, 1000-1100, 1500-1700 EXC 21: NOT PROVIDED
TUE: 0600-0700, 1000-1100,1300-1330, 1600-1700
WED: 0600-0700, 1030-1130, 1400-1430, 1600-1700
SAT: NOT PROVIDED
SUN: 0700-1700
OUTSIDE THESE HOURS, AFIS POSSIBLE ON PPR 24HR TO ‘EDEIS’ ON
MYHANDLING WEB SITE.
FROM: 20 APR 2022 07:14 TO: 30 APR 2022 23:59

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I think without AFIS/ATC it’s “FR-only” according to VAC

You also need to create an account here to visit during ATS hours,

https://cy.myhandlingsoftware.com/Account/Create

Military AF is no longer operating (maybe one reason why it was FR-only?), still SkyDemon list their contact, WTF? AIP & VAC seems up to date

Last Edited by Ibra at 24 Apr 19:41
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

I think without AFIS/ATC it’s “FR-only” according to VAC

The notam says it will have one and not the other.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

FR-only applies only when no ATS is around for airfields with A/A+FR only outside TWR hours

If an AFIS is around, you can talk English even if AFIS is not English rated (not sure how it works for IFR)

Last Edited by Ibra at 24 Apr 20:00
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

@Peter It depends upon the Airfield. There are “fr seulement/only” AFIS aerodromes – Royan springs to mind near to me, but in this case the VAC states “absence ATS : A/A fr seulement/only” so as there is an AFIS service on Sunday 07:00 – 17:00, you can speak english to the AFIS during those times. Another Notam states SR-SS A/A authorised, so outside the ATC or AFIS hours, but not at night, everyone self announces in French.

Regards, SD..

Looking in the AIP, it seems to indicate that with AFIS (which is available on Sunday per your screenshot NOTAM) English is available.

EIWT Weston, Ireland

The AFIS in Tours speaks English and does IFR

skydriller wrote:

you can speak english to the AFIS during those times

Any idea how it works if the AFIS is not rated for English? the majority are but few aren’t
1) Ouessant LFEC is IFR, has AFIS (FR)
2) Lezignan Corbieres LFMZ is VFR, has AFIS (FR Only)

My understanding you can still visit LFEC and talk English to French AFIS, still not sure how it works for IFR departure? for LFMZ it has to be in French even with an AFIS…

Last Edited by Ibra at 25 Apr 08:45
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

the majority (AFIS who speak English) are but few aren’t . . .

e.g. Amiens LFAY

Rochester, UK, United Kingdom

Seems pretty clear to me that if the VAC says “fr seulement/only” then thats exactly what it means. If that phrase isnt there then you can use English. Whether the AFIS will answer you is another matter. I think some need to remember what AFIS actually is and that it is not supposed to issue instructions to aircraftbin the air – even though they may do so – again, Royan, local to me springs imediately to mind.

Regards, SD..

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