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Need advice for a long VFR flight tomorrow ( EDWF to LFRG with Channel crossing)

Peter wrote:

FWIW not all DAs create a criminal offence by transiting. Only those with a byelaw attached do. Not sure how one can easily find out though.

DAs that are restricted by byelaw are marked on the CAA charts with a symbol (an asterisk * I think? it’s in the legend). Ultimately that info comes from the AIP:

ENR 1.1 / 5.1.3.2.3: “For those Danger Areas where Byelaws which prohibit entry apply, the Remarks column 3 of ENR 5.1 includes the year and number of the relevant Statutory Instruments (SI)”

EGSG, United Kingdom

Yes, but the Channel ones aren‘t even DAs, they are TDA‘s and as such, aren‘t even listed in the AIP.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

You will still get busted as if they were Class A.

6th row here.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Presumably there is some administrative convenience in calling these danger areas rather than restricted areas.

I mean I presume it’s easier for the regulator to make a danger area rather than a restricted area, while it’s harder for pilots to understand!

EIWT Weston, Ireland

Peter wrote:

They are the same in terms of pilot punishment.

It is all a part of this stupid policy which started a few years ago. The phrase is “total punishment”.

I have never met anybody who knew who started this scheme but we all know who runs it

I’m not talking about enforcement. I’m talking about the regs and they didn’t change recently.

FWIW not all DAs create a criminal offence by transiting. Only those with a byelaw attached do.

That’s why I wrote “most”.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Ok we flew today on the way back, instead on the way down to LFRG, along the coastline of UK. In 3700ft we were 200ft above these new „restricted“ zones. It was fine but lower would be better as we did in the amsterdam area (1200ft). Would be fine to know what kind of restiction these „aerial survey“ are for the next flight.

EDWF, Germany

Tigerflyer wrote:

Would be fine to know what kind of restiction these „aerial survey“ are for the next flight.

There are no restrictions at all. The areas are just for information.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden
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