Here at 13:36 is some interesting stuff
Supposedly happened around 30,000ft.
What he says is that the white plume left to the plane falling trajectory is a missile signature
When I watched that clip it reminded me to what we usually saw after missile hitting target when served in anti aircraft unit. However, I don’t know how it looks like when a bomb explodes on board of aircraft.
From Xaviez Titelman, It is a missile. He’s explaining here (in franch but YT can translate.).
What he says is that the white plume left to the plane falling trajectory is a missile signature, with a very white propulsion fume, then a grey part corresponding to explosion, and from his experience, it’s a tunguska or BUKSAM.
Another thing in the video is that the plane have been routed outside airways but the russian control before its destruction, very likely to ensure a good shot.
[ YT URL fixed – contains dodgy characters, so used the < pre > method ]
Hmmm… may have to reopen the Ukraine thread and simply delete any pro-Russia posts (and posters) who turn up
Peter wrote:
Well, Prigozin flying openly around Russia is a bit like me going to my ex wife for dinner and mushrooms are being served. What on earth was he smoking?
He was probably of the opinion that Putin wouldn’t do something so obvious as shooting his plane down, and felt he had some “plot armour” (if Putin kills him he becomes a martyr) so all he had to do is avoid all upstairs windows. However, with the reported passenger list for that plane, it does seem like it became too juicy of a target to get rid of several problems at once.
Peter wrote:
This confirms the version that the plane fell apart in flight.
There are two theories circling around: the first one is antiaircraft missile and the second one is bomb on board. I guess the investigation will go in direction of the second one because it’s more suitable to the official narrative “Government doesn’t have anything with this, Wagner had many enemies…”
The wing and landing gear of Evgeny Prigozhin’s business jet have been found
They were lying 3 kilometers from the place of fall. They were taken from the Ladyzhenka River, near the Kuzhenkino railway station. A few hundred meters from the place where the tail of the plane was found.
This confirms the version that the plane fell apart in flight.
In one of the videos circulating online, the first few frames seem to show the smoke from an exploding rocket.
Calling it a “crash” is a bit of a misnomer. An aircraft that has been blown up doesn’t crash, it just falls out of the sky in pieces.
One of the reports suggests that this was shot down with a contact explosion type of missile.
It was shot down by a missile
It could be – these missiles usually explode in vicinity of the aircraft triggered by proximity fuse causing shower of shrapnels besides blast damage. Aircraft parts (apparently tail section) were found dislocated from the main wreckage which means inflight break.