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Cessna P210 N731MT down at Hohenems LOIH

Peter wrote:

I once landed on the opposite runway

In another thread related to mistakes I wrote about three I’ve done (that in similar cases ended fatally): took off from opposite runway, had partial spatial orientation in VMC that ended with recovery from unusual attitude and lost in fog during taxing prior to departure.

cpt_om_sky wrote:

again one simple question

For this simple question I offered you very simple (and very probable) explanation here but somehow it’s not easy to accept it. The first picture in that post shows what he did, the second one is area chart and the third one shows what he actually though he was doing.

Last Edited by Emir at 23 Nov 22:39
LDZA LDVA, Croatia

Emir wrote:

For this simple question I offered you very simple (and very probable) explanation here but somehow it’s not easy to accept it. The first picture in that post shows what he did, the second one is area chart and the third one shows what he actually though he was doing.

I can’t find the post from you with three pictures. Can you try another link to your post?

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Why or wherefrom do we know that gear was not retracted and flaps still extended? I’m not sure whether this is still retreivable from the crashed aircraft. This is one of the “sure sure” informations or is there a source? And anyhow, if it was retreivable, it will only be published in the accident report, which will take a year or more to come.

Other than that and from a pilot’s view on as what to learn from an accident I agree with @Peter that we’re through and unless no new evidence turns up that there’s nothing more to learn here.

However, I think that we’ve honored the fellow pilot in thinking and discussing about what happened to him, in a way that only we pilots do to this high degree.

Germany

Here is a video of a departure in similiar conditions, i.e. approx. 200-250 meters vis amd clear once about 500 feet AGL. Go to min. 5:00 for the actual takeoff. And while this departure didn‘t involve any mountains, it wasn‘t on a SID or with immediate radar assistance either…



Last Edited by boscomantico at 24 Nov 20:05
Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

boscomantico wrote:

Go to min. 5:00 for the actual takeoff

Now this looks and feels exactly like on my old MS Flight Simulator back in 1990, same visual range!

Germany

I can’t find the post from you with three pictures. Can you try another link to your post?

https://euroga.org/forums/hangar-talk/13442-cessna-p210-n731mt-down-at-hohenems-loih/post/300946#300946

LDZA LDVA, Croatia
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