A C-152 is hardly a modern GA aircraft. It hasn’t been in production for several decades.
You are right LeSving, I was trying to exclude true vintage aircraft, so perhaps should have said aircraft built in the 1970/80s.
I fixed the subject header
i agree that c182 have hold their value very well
i know of shop that is buying mid 70 c172 refurbish them with (paint, interior,avionics (8,33 mode s, garmin G5 , engine if needed) to customer request mainly vfr and sells them as he tells me, the demand for c172 in “good” conditions is high as there are only the very late ones or the 1970s´ in not so nice condition. he tells me there is a market for 70-100k c172 and looking at the work he does this seems to be right
Take a 1980 FR172N,
Overhaul the engine(H2AD),
New exterior paint,
New Leather interior, plastic, carpet, side panels
Install a metal instrument panel with 2x Garmin G5 and new COM/NAV and Mode S
No Autopilot.
No panel mounted GPS
Aircraft TT 6000hrs
What would be estimated worth afterwards in todays marked?
just see today a 172 advert in the UK puhhh that is such a case of a very high price for a “old gurl” in new clothing!!!
1973 Cessna 172M
In perfect condition
Airframe 4000 Hours
Annual and arc due April 2018 – New Annual and ARC with sale
zero time Lycoming 0320-E3D engine fitted overhauled in May 2017. High tech 160HP exhuast sytem fitted worth $4500 worth.
Exterior 9.5/10
Interior 9.5/10
Avionics: Garmin 430 COM/NAV/ILS/VOR / ADF and Mode S
Maintained very well by a high ranked Part 145 maintenance company
£70,000
MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!
Peter_Paul wrote:
MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!
A 1975 C150 for 75.000? WTF? You can get a used Aquila A210 for that (say a 2005 model)
Peter_Paul wrote:
MADNESS!!!!!!!!!!
Indeed!
MedEwok wrote:
You can get a used Aquila A210 for that (say a 2005 model)
but this Cessna will serve for another 40 years or 30k hours and XXXk landings on grass. Don’t know if Aquilla will last that long.
probably a poor example indeed.
This is a 150hp converted 150. This is a rarity in Europe. It can get out out of very short strips, climb very well, even in the mountains, etc.
It also has
-rather low hours, on airframe, engine and prop
-new interior
-new paint
-updated, fully compliant avionics
-corrosion proofing
-long-range tanks
-complete SIDs completed
So, this is very far from being your standard, 100hp, beat-up C150 with old avionics etc.
I am not saying that the price is right, but it might be. In the end, as always, this will ultimately be decided by what the buyer ends up paying.
One problem I see is its Swiss registration. The Swiss market is quite small to start with. And no person outside Switzerland in his right mind would keep an aircraft on the HB-reg. Hence, if sold abroad, it would have to be transferred to another reg, which is always a huge can of worms on a 50 year-old, highly modified aircraft such as this one. So even if it is technically possible to get in on another reg, it will probably cost loads of money, and on a small, fairly low-value plane like this one, it probably is not economical to do that. Moreover, it’s unforseeable, and thus a big financial risk.
In addition to that, most Swiss aircraft are not “EU-VAT paid”. So, that would also come on top if it were sold to somewhere in the EU…
So that I guess is the problem the seller faces here. For the above reasons, it is probably much too expensive for the European market. So, if he doesn’t happen to find a Swiss buyer, he will have to drop the price (which is what just happened), up to the point where some Swiss buyer will finally take it….
One other problem of this aircraft will be W&B I guess. I mean, on a standard C150, you can’t fill the seats and the (standard) fuel tanks. With the much heavier O-320 engine up front (and disregarding any ensuing forward CG problems), it will definitely be a one seater on normal fuel. With the long-range tanks filled, it will thus probably be impossible to fly within MTOW, even solo. So, this plane will probably only appeal to people who simply don’t care about certificated MTOWs, which makes the “market” for it even smaller.