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TB20 performance

IAS?

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

On request from someone and following the Bonanza posts here I did a test today.

I get 153kt IAS at 13.3 USG/hr.

Conditions: 3000ft (+7C) or 5000ft (+3C), QNH 1028, 24"/2400rpm, peak EGT.

At 11.5 USG/hr I get the usual 140kt IAS at both 3000 and 5000ft. This is the normal low level cruise.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Well, that will work, of course, too

You will probably burn another 2-3 USG reaching the operating ceiling (maybe FL170 for a C182), and will get some “interesting moments” in the higher altitudes when the engine starts to run “rough” above the Alps

But, as I say, it will work.

I don’t think these manufacturers can ever change their POHs because if they did it would trigger claims that the previous version was incorrect.

It would be interesting to establish what makes Michael’s plane do the extra speed, which is worth quite a lot of extra HP. Laminar surfaces help (at a cost of making the aircraft unusable in any icing) and it’s probably a lot cleaner; the TB20 has a huge number of pop rivets which cannot be helping.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

You should start leaning long before that –

I was reading the AFM for the C182T (normally aspirated) the other day, and to my big surprise they are still advocating not to touch the red knob below 5000 feet and lean during climb only if the engine runs rough at full rich, despite being equipped with individual EGT and CHT for each cylinder.

LFPT, LFPN

I looked for the cockpit dimensions of the 350 but could not find anything online.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

That is impressive!

Now, Michael, we want the full story here. What do you put in your fuel?

Private field, Mallorca, Spain

@ 9500’ -3C°

152 K IAS

175 K TAS

11 Gal/H

Last Edited by Michael at 25 Mar 15:39
FAA A&P/IA
LFPN

All right you Fancy French Folding Gear Trinidad drivers, MOVE OVER you ar about to be overtaken by a plastic plane with it’s gear down !

FAA A&P/IA
LFPN

Well I’ll give you climb rate advantage at altitude vs the Mooney M20J

YPJT, United Arab Emirates

you have to start leaning to maintain power from around FL120.

You should start leaning long before that – I use the constant EGT method all the way from sea level.

I guess this is a UK regulation? Is it still valid given SERA etc.?

AIUI, you are supposed to advise ATC if unable to achieve 500fpm (up or down). In reality, when they see a little plane, they are not fussy, but very occassionally they get picky about it. I often descend at 100-200fpm if I have say 100nm to run, for best MPG during the descent.

In the router model I use a climb rate 1000 fpm at SL, 0 fpm at 20000ft and linear in between, which is about right in terms of the best achievable.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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