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Premature Camshaft / Cam Follower failure

Do you keep 100 in winter?
FWIW, I keep 80 all year round.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany

I tried Roeder some months ago for something and they made it extremely clear they will not communicate in English.

I know they sell a lot abroad and they do communicate routinely in English. Their web site is also available in English. Maybe you were just unlucky when you called?

Regarding oil, I use straight Shell 100 in summer and Philips X/C in winter, both with Camguard (not knowing if it adds value or is just a clever way of making money).

That was the plan, but let’s see how cold it gets :-)) I can always change to 80 when it’s colder, or replace missing W100 with W80 during the winter.

(An airplane shop that doesn’t communicate in English should not survive longer than 4 weeks)

I wonder how THIS compares to “Camguard” … Aeroshell W80/100 “PLUS” is new to me:

http://www.shell.com/global/products-services/solutions-for-businesses/aviation/aeroshell/products/piston-engine-oils/w100plus-w80plus.html

Same additives as 15W/50 but a single grade oil.

The problem with this “W80 for winter” is that even myself (150hrs/year pilot) finds that less than 50 hours may elapse between the “end of the summer” and the Annual service in January.

So which oil should I be using?

The general engine temperatures (oil when starting up, CHT, EGT) will all obviously track the OAT, more or less. The oil temp is thermostatically controlled (on a Lyco) so that remains fairly steady through the year.

So the issue is one of starting the engine.

If one was starting the engine in -10C then one would presumably not want to be using W100… but how often is one doing that? Actually if I was starting in -10C I would install a preheater anyway.

That’s why I use multigrade, and a 50/50 mixture of W80 and 15W50 (Shell) seems to be the best compromise between getting multigrade properties, and not having the engine seals eaten by using 100% Shell 15W50.

I used Exxon Elite for years and just got loads of brown watery sludge everywhere, including under the rocker covers, so I gave up on it. This issue is frequently reported. Also there was no statistical difference between Exxon Elite and what I use now (I used to alternate them for the comparison). The thing which made a huge difference was Camguard which roughly halved the hard metals engine wear (details posted here previously).

An airplane shop that doesn’t communicate in English should not survive longer than 4 weeks

I think they can in Germany and France – two countries which are economically advanced but where a lot of companies work only in the local language. I’ve been in business since 1978 and the contrast is pretty strong.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

less than 50 hours may elapse between the “end of the summer” and the Annual service in January.

I never change oil during annual service but according to my 25-30h oil schedule.

5W50 (Shell) seems to be the best compromise between getting multigrade properties, and not having the engine seals eaten by using 100% Shell 15W50.

This is why I switched from Shell 15W50 to Philips X/C. It’s multigrade but without synthetic oil (PAO) so it doesn’t have the issues. The Camguard guy (Ed Kollin) recommends Philips X/C when using multi grade.

All Aircraft companies in Germany I know speak English. maybe not all people, but communication in English is always possible.

How many companies in England or the USA could you call in German? Zero. ;-)

I never change oil during annual service but according to my 25-30h oil schedule.

Me too – it just usually happens to work out about right (it’s between 25 and 50hrs) to change it at the Annual, especially as I am not allowed to work in the hangar (in fact I am not even in theory allowed to approach the aircraft or even enter the hangar, in the hangar I am at now – the old company shut down and moved out) and have to arrange a special “discreet” hangar elsewhere for the Annual…

This is why I switched from Shell 15W50 to Philips X/C

I thought you were trying to dispose of the X/C a while ago, because something was missing from it…

How many companies in England or the USA could you call in German? Zero. ;-)

Of course, but that’s a different issue, and would only support my point.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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