According to a Eurocontrol conference I went to years ago, the Plan is
That was for airliners. GA would use the 1st one; the 2nd one has no product on the market.
It’s also especially true over the Black Sea.
I am going to keep my ADF ;-), Just saw today a new airline route to LHPP and they were flying an NDB approach the RWY 16 due to strong winds, it allows only for LPV or NDB..guess they don’t have SBAS LPV on the dash-8 and for sure when GPS signal is spoofed you can forget RNP…
BlueOcean wrote:
Rookie pilot here, flying VFR in a SEP, with WAAS GNSS and Skydemon
Of course it’s great to use GNSS during VFR flight but OTOH flying VFR you should be OK navigating visually.
you should be OK navigating visually
You are pulling the guy’s leg… flying any distance in Europe without GPS is practically impossible, except in very rare cases like following the coast.
You are pulling the guy’s leg
Nah – he’s supplementing his new job with being a French aeroclub instructor. That’s what they all believe.
Spoofing put me at OLBA (while actually flying northbound in Greece).
flying any distance in Europe without GPS is practically impossible, except in very rare cases like following the coast.
not sure if the above counts as Europe 
but the red encircled part was completely “GPS free”
One has to fly with whatever is available
Nah – he’s supplementing his new job with being a French aeroclub instructor. That’s what they all believe.
I had unpleasant experience with LOI during RNP approach in IMC at LTFG, so I’m pretty sure I’d be very uncomfortable losing GPS even in VMC.
Finnair suspends flights to Tartu due to GPS interference
Finnair had to turn back two commercial flights from Helsinki to Tartu in Estonia because of GPS jamming/spoofing last week and the airline has now announced suspension of flights from Helsinki to Tartu during May. Presumably VFR can continue as before.
There was some training and a little local GA activity when we visited there last year.
The airport is about 25 miles from the Russia border, is served by a remote FISO based in Tallin and has GPS instrument approaches.
Jamming activities are reported active in the area, as commented on earlier in this thread, and these appear to include spoofing (so you think you are somewhere else) and possibly also spoofing of phantom ADS-B traffic which I suspect might cause traffic alerts.
The suggestion is that Tartu should need some alternative ground navigation aid to fall back on.
Anyone know how this affects local GA activity (VFR or IFR) and any other airports in the area?
Surely an airliner can set up its INS at the gate (the coordinates are on a big board right in front of the cockpit, in the parked position) and then just fly; no GPS needed. It is only in recent years (10-15, depending on which airline pilot you ask) that airliners used GPS at all.
