Jeppesen are not in-line with AIP plates?
They have legal minima from NOTAMS
They have legal minima from NOTAMS
Never heard of that.
2 threads merged. Some interesting posts above. I wonder if @stephendoc is still around.
Does anyone know how this Navigraph deal works? I mean, what is in it for Jepp to support this at all? I can think of various automated ways of downloading the data and checking dates on it.
Sometimes on peut avoir OCH changes in NOTAMS that superceeds AIP OCH
Ibra wrote:
Jeppesen are not in-line with AIP plates?They have legal minima from NOTAMS
Actually, a good point – the Jepp plates then (allegedly) are not in sync and I’m supposed to use the AIP (although I don’t use Jepp anyway)?
Notams are always #1.
AIP next (the legal backstop, although we know it doesn’t work that way in a lot of places)
Jepp next.
Minima changes are unlikely to be really important.
Minima changes are unlikely to be really important
Usually yes: notams from no LPV, no ATC…rarely change the physical world, so irrelevant
OCH change with new erected obstacle notams on 200ft DH ILS, well not sure?
So keeping this on topic… Navigraph might show stuff a bit later than Jepp.
Peter wrote:
Notams are always #1.
AIP next (the legal backstop, although we know it doesn’t work that way in a lot of places)
Jepp next.Minima changes are unlikely to be really important
Apparently not necessarily in that order looking at EGTK. The UK AIP is updating the chart only with the 29 Dec 22 AIRAC cycle: https://www.aurora.nats.co.uk/htmlAIP/Publications/2022-12-29-AIRAC/graphics/321739.pdf
I have found that Jeppesen do their best effort to incorporate NOTAMs for permanent changes affecting an instrument procedure but have found that inconsistent. In one case a few years I e-mailed Jeppesen regarding a relatively old permanent NOTAM and they then updated the chart.
arj1 wrote:
Actually, a good point – the Jepp plates then (allegedly) are not in sync and I’m supposed to use the AIP (although I don’t use Jepp anyway)?
In this case the AIP chart won’t be updated either — you have to use the NOTAM. As wbardorf wrote, Jepp sometimes update their charts ahead of the AIP updates when there is a permanent (or long-term) NOTAM.
I’ve always checked the Navigraph plates with the Notams and, if in doubt, I’ve used the AIP National plates – although for clarity and consistency I have always preferred Jeppesen.