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200 HP turboprop engine

Here is an up to date paper

Seem quite complex to build a turbine that is efficient at variable speeds. Which I think is the difficult part of the problem.

Perhaps the RB211 of the GA world

link fixed

Last Edited by Ted at 30 Jul 08:41
Ted
United Kingdom

Dud link. Has a timeout.

I’d guess a recuperator effective enough to achieve reasonable fuel consumption with a 200 HP turboprop won’t fit easily on the airframe.
People have been working that problem for a while.

This was done by some firm here which did a floation on the AIM, doing turbine engine driven portable generators, and went bust not long after. The heat recovery stuff was much bigger than the engine itself.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Well it certainly is doable then. It has already been done, more than 50 years ago, from here:

The T78-A-2 was originally designed as a potential replacement for the Allison T56 turboprop in the Lockheed P-3A ASW aircraft. It was also adaptable to airborne early warning aircraft based on Navy carriers, for large transports, and other applications where long endurance or low fuel consumption was of prime importance.

The T78 incorporated a regenerator system that was intended to reduce specific fuel consumption at low power settings and, thus greatly extend long-range and “on station” capabilities. The basic principle of regeneration involved reclamation of turbine exhaust heat to increase the temperature of compressor discharge air, thus reducing the amount of fuel required for the most efficient engine operating temperature.

By the spring of 1965, Allison had run the T78 at up to 85% of rated power during a one-hour test. Testing continued for a short period, but the engine was not put into production. Apparently some people in the Navy were opposed to increasing time on station for the P-3 because of crew fatigue problems.

In other words, it wasn’t put into production because it worked too well The crew couldn’t handle it. Rather amazing.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

I think this say it all, from Ted’s link above

A single small centrifugal compressor has a CR of about 4-5 perhaps at nominal load. The maximum efficiency it can achieve is 35-40%, which translates to about 20% for a real unit. Increasing the CR, and a recuperator will have negative effect, as would be the case for all modern aero-turbines in operation. This is very expensive, it makes little sense to pay €150-200 for an engine with the same performance as a Rotax.

The recuperator of the Allison engine is not exactly small compared with rest of the engine:

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway
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