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Landing with a CB overhead the airport

@greg_mp thank you, stunning stuff!

always learning
LO__, Austria

@Neil got it, no lateral skid with drift is very annoying for perfectionists but in most airliners it is usually masked by their high speed touchdown on the same runway point, I suggest they make those runway points wet hole with some regular grease/oil operation

Last Edited by Ibra at 28 Jan 11:45
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Snoopy wrote:

That’s what’s in the heads here but it is changing and getting more severe.

Sometimes it could get as bad as this:
METAR LFMN 311630Z 08014KT 6000 RA SCT007 BKN016CB BKN020
17/16 Q1015 RETSRA BECMG 8000 RA FEW016CB=
METAR LFMN 311600Z 10009KT 070V130 3000 R04L/0900D TSRA BKN010CB
BKN033 17/16 Q1015 BECMG 5000 -TSRA SCT013CB=
METAR COR LFMN 311549Z 10008KT 060V130 1500 +TSRA BKN010CB
17/16 Q1015 WS ALL RWY TEMPO +FC=
METAR COR LFMN 311530Z 09017KT 060V120 1500 BKN010CB 18/16
Q1015 WS ALL RWY TEMPO +FC
METAR COR LFMN 311500Z 13013KT 9999 2000E -SHRA +FC SCT011
SCT016CB BKN083 19/16 Q1015 TEMPO 2000 TSRA SCT013CB=
METAR LFMN 311430Z 13011KT 9999 FEW011 SCT016TCU BKN083 19/17
Q1015 TEMPO 4000 SHRA SCT013TCU=

It was right at the threshold of 04R:

We were flying around LFMD (20nm from LFMN) with some wind but still manageable…
For sure around Mediterranean see, it’s changing.

Last Edited by greg_mp at 28 Jan 10:44
LFMD, France

Ibra wrote:

Curious why? probably wet tarmac only not wet grass?

I don’t very often fly the Super Cub on rainy days!
I mean on the heavier aircraft I fly on Tarmac runways, it just allows a tiny bit of sideways movement without a sudden jerk as the wheels grip. It just makes the landings feel a little bit smoother.

Whilst I try to land with zero drift, I am not perfect!

Last Edited by Neil at 27 Jan 21:34
Darley Moor, Gamston (UK)

Neil wrote:

I like a wet runway for crosswind landings, makes it easier imho

Curious why? probably wet tarmac only not wet grass?

I am sure I went off the runway on wet grass with too much crosswind one day (it was from one piece of grass to another piece of grass, so not much drama)

Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Obviously the runway was wet which didn’t help

I like a wet runway for crosswind landings, makes it easier imho

Darley Moor, Gamston (UK)

VFR bimbling Bahamas/Florida, I was supposed to fly from Exuma to Tampa with a quick stop at Fort Lauderdale Exec (had to clear US customs on east coast and hand back some survival gear we loaned there) but we end up spending the night in La Quinta hotel watching lightnings

Last Edited by Ibra at 27 Jan 13:08
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

Thanks for the writeup! Where did you charter (if) the plane? Thanks.

always learning
LO__, Austria

“The US has better awareness of microburst dangers than we do in Europe.”

Last Thursday I was inbound VFR from Exuma (MYEF) to Ft Lauderdale (KFXE) when a nasty series of weather patches hit the east coast of Florida, all the way from Palm Beach to Miami, it was impressive to see the level of awareness and flexibility from ATC and various pilots regarding that localized weather, ATC had weather radar and most pilots use in-flight weather radar or data links, flying VFR there was challenging (I was not the only one) but carrying 2h expensive fuel reserve did pay well after all, also very convinient to have other traffic and in-flight weather overlayed on tablet

Only caveat 10min wait untill it clears was actually 60min as destination airport changed it’s state from VFR/IFR/Closed/IFR/VFR two times, I tried two unsuccessul VFR approaches before going for emergency IFR and fitting with the traffic flow, on my slot I had a bumpy long downwind but I got sunshine and rainbow on my final to tarmac

I now understand why distance from clouds in class D makes lot of sense: very useful when you are given details for a B737 traffic running from convective weather and you are asked to make your own separation from him

Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

That’a probably because like tornadoes, microburst is a real phenomenon there. Not much of this in Europe, we have a different weather system.

That’s what’s in the heads here but it is changing and getting more severe.

always learning
LO__, Austria
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