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And now that mini-Putin Erdogan has received too little attention lately and is trying to block Sweden and Finland from joining NATO.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Yes; the little bugger is alleging that Sweden is providing accommodation to some Turks who tried to blow him up, or something like that… May well be true

I am sure the Americans will “work on him” under the table F16s need an awful lot of spare parts, etc.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Yes; the little bugger is alleging that Sweden is providing accommodation to some Turks who tried to blow him up, or something like that… May well be true

It’s about kurds, not turks. (When we talk about ethnicity – the people he refer to may well be (ex-)Turkish citizens.)

In Erdogan’s mind every kurd who is politically active is a terrorist.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Airborne_Again wrote:

In Erdogan’s mind every kurd who is politically active is a terrorist.

Isn’t it ‘every Kurd is a terrorist’?

ENVA, Norway

WingsWaterAndWheels wrote:

Isn’t it ‘every Kurd is a terrorist’?

Yes. That’s the official view in Turkey. Has been for decades.

Peter wrote:

Yes; the little bugger is alleging that Sweden is providing accommodation to some Turks who tried to blow him up, or something like that… May well be true

Or it is simply a reason for him to quote while his real motive lays elsewhere. He has been close to Putin for decades, can’t show it too openly. Or out of his experience with the guy he simply thinks it is not the moment to add another bit of boiling oil into the overflowing deep fryer,lest it might proove the final straw to really set the house on (nuclear) fire. We can only speculate.

From the Swedish/Finnish point of view it is more than clear they want protection, right bloody now. Understandably so.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

Isn’t it ‘every Kurd is a terrorist’?

I tried to be charitable.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Biden has been quoted as saying “I’m not going to Turkey but I don’t think it’ll be a problem.”

A better statement might have been ""Either Finland and Sweden are in, or Turkey is out. I await Mr Erdogan’s decision on that."

The Guardian is running an article suggesting that Erdogan is a man who deals in brinkmanship. His popularity at an all-time low (insomuch as it matters for a dictator) and inflation roaring away, he perhaps sees value in playing to nationalist opinion at home and appearing to stand up the the west. Perhaps he will back down after securing some minor concessions that he can make much of to his domestic audience.

EGLM & EGTN

Graham wrote:

playing to nationalist opinion at home and appearing to stand up the the west

That’s the only tactics he has and he’s been playing this game from the very beginning. However, he is very popular in rural Turkey and that’s at least 40 million people.

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba told Dutch newspaper NRC that the list includes: the liberation of Russian-occupied territories, including Donbas and Crimea, the payment of reparations by Russia, trials for Russian war crimes and crimes against humanity, and European integration for Ukraine.

Sounds about right.

Croatian President Zoran Milanovic told the N1 TV channel that he would instruct the country’s permanent representative to NATO to vote against this move. The future membership of the two Nordic countries in NATO will depend on whether Bosnia and Herzegovina’s electoral law is changed, he said, adding that Croats in Bosnia are “being destroyed” as a political entity.

Everybody is getting in on the same bargaining wagon…

The really interesting thing is that China is keen to distance itself from Russia:

They are probably judging that Russia’s economy will be buggered after all this so Russia won’t be buying much anyway, and they don’t want to risk any US sanctions.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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