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Cheapest engine overhaul or used engine? (TCM IO-360-D) - Czech CAA demands a Form 1 for an already installed engine, and registry transfers

Thanks! What I can say now, I don’t want to buy an airplane with expired ARC in another country anymore. It is cheap on one hand, but definitely not cheap at the end. And I am not talking about just money at all, it will costs a lot of psychical energy.

LKBU, Czech Republic

What a story! I hope the bureaucrats enjoyed it…

Well done!

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Well, guys, everything is behind me now. Airplane is now flying and airworthy, engine is running well. We added some things to maintenance program, some extended maintenance for outdated engine, but at all CAA was helpful and they were satisfied after test flight. Anyway thanks to all for their opinion and help in this thread.

LKBU, Czech Republic

Well, thanks. I will write them and I may choose Blackstone. But now I must solve few issues and install the engine.

LKBU, Czech Republic

if they can do it for piston engines too

Of course they can, an oil analysis is just an oil analysis… but what they are lacking, is the huge experience and comparative database piston engine aviation lab provide.
Blackstone is probably the most comprehensive, sometimes too much for my liking… using AOA for quite a few years, and also perfectly happy with them.
You can order the free probes direct from Blackstone or use one of them here Aircraft Spruce

There a few providers in Europe, but none has near the volume US based labs have.

Dan
ain't the Destination, but the Journey
LSZF, Switzerland

Well, I am finally happy, they will accept the engine, but with some inspections, oil analysis is one, borescope is second. I will do both, and they will leave me alone.

LKBU, Czech Republic

You can send the sample to the US by DHL. Cost 50-100, they will have it 2 days later, and report probably same day. They need about 50ml; they send you sample kits but in this case you won’t have that.

It is airmail which has always been a “dirt cheap service”, perhaps 5% chance of disappearing totally (100% if sending to China, Egypt, etc). Currently there are issues with airmail UK → EU but that’s another story…

The Czech CAA is demanding oil analysis??? That’s unbelievable. A one-off analysis doesn’t tell you much, unless the numbers are really terrible, but in any case the numbers will be ok if the oil was changed a few hours beforehand – a tactic used by some people selling their aircraft

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

That one from USA from Peter looks good. I just need someone who do it in two weeks (or less), not two months. I just aks in my work, (Czech Airlines) we are doing oil analysis for turbine engines, if they can do it for piston engines too.

LKBU, Czech Republic

In think in this situation, you want a firm which does whatever satisfies the CAA to get the aircraft back in the air, even if the company specialises in analysing olive oil.

Finding one you actually want to use can wait.

Biggin Hill

There are a zillion oil analysis companies but as the linked thread I posted shows, they mostly use different methods, which is a bit useless for trend monitoring unless you use the same lab all the time. Also you want to use a firm which does aviation, not boat or truck engines.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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