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I seems that the CCP is getting fed up with the BTC miners who, according to this article, are considering decamping to the US. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/bitcoin-mining-china-crypto-america/2021/06/17/0a39c3a8-c903-11eb-8708-64991f2acf28_story.html

The official narrative is that the CCP is kicking out miners to burnish its somewhat questionable reputation for leading the world away from use of coal.

More likely is that the CCP has recognised that decentralised finance is an existential threat to their particularly loathsome brand of socialism. They are smart enough to see that it’s too late for a 51% attack. Turfing out their miners and censoring discussion of cryptocurrency on social media are essential precursors to general prohibition of DeFi in communist China.

Of course, we have plenty of neo-totalitarians in the West who will look with envy at such a prohibition. But our feeble western governments lack the moral courage to machine-gun their own citizens, let alone to kill Bitcoin.

Is Bitcoin a “bubble” or a disruptive technology as important as the Otto cycle and TCP/IP? Maybe it’s both; a bull market in which one doesn’t have a position often looks like a bubble.

Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

Second: M3 in Eurozone has a long term growth rate of 5-6% p.a. and a last year growth rate of 10%. That is far less than the growth of btc in circulation over the last 10 years.

EUR and BTC money supply charts. I wonder if anyone can spot the difference

Just a thought, prompted by the first graph: what is the qualitative moral difference between the European Union stealing money from poor people by exponential money supply growth with 0.5% negative interest on deposits and its pan-European predecessor stealing gold tooth fillings from slave workers?

Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

Euro supply in 1984?
The name Euro wasn’t even adopted until 1995, and it wasn’t in circulation until 1999.

There was an ECU (European economic unit) prior to it, but it’s not the same currency.

EIWT Weston, Ireland

dublinpilot wrote:

There was an ECU (European economic unit) prior to it, but it’s not the same currency.

That’s a matter of definition. When the Euro was introduced its value was set equal to that of the ECU. But it’s true that the ECU wasn’t a real currency.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Jacko wrote:

EUR and BTC money supply charts.

Nice trick! So let’s check what we actually see – and no, I’m not picking on the fact that getting M3 data from Eurozone pre-Euro is a pretty difficult thing (and a shaky one) or that you compare M3 for EUR with M1 for BTC

If we look at the timeframe that is actually comparable – so 2009 to today – you might realize that in that timeframe the “money stealing European Union” has less than doubled M3 (+75%) while the money protecting bitcoin community in the very same timeframe has increased the number of BTC by a factor of more than 9! So 800% vs. 75% inflation in the same timeframe – who is taking away money?

So for those people who do not own a crystal ball and therefore do not have foresight in what happens in the next ten years and therefore are limited at judging the past, it’s pretty clear that M3 stability for EUR has been much bigger than for BTC

Airborne_Again wrote:

That’s a matter of definition. When the Euro was introduced its value was set equal to that of the ECU. But it’s true that the ECU wasn’t a real currency.

That’s right – but the composition of the currency basket that established the ECU has been changed (the last time) in 1989 so pre 1989 data for Eurozone M3 needs very significant explanation and some deep thoughts on what it actually means.
Calculation Eurozone M3 in USD at historic exchange rates might be the far better way to look back longer times.

Last Edited by Malibuflyer at 20 Jun 16:08
Germany

https://mol.im/a/9722317
Can anyone explain this?

Maoraigh
EGPE, United Kingdom

Maoraigh wrote:

Can anyone explain this?

“I put all my paper bills in a shady person’s house, and now they are gone. I don’t understand why. Please help me.”

ESME, ESMS

Or ‘I gave somebody else the keys to the safe where I keep all my money, and its location, and now it is gone’.

Last Edited by Cobalt at 24 Jun 23:35
Biggin Hill

Isn’t that what is called a “bank”?

What was this outfit offering, which made people go there and not to a normal bank? BCCI, anyone?

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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