If one reads those actual words, yes it is perfectly reasonable. We know one can still catch it and pass it on. The Q is whether it has much effect, and clearly it doesn’t. But in an unvaccinated population with an older demographic, it would have.
This is interesting.
Are other countries vaccinating under-18s? That’s the only way to really get the numbers up.
The UK will be stuck at 89% of adults (over-18s), by the looks of it, mostly due to hardened anti-vaccers, especially in the 18-30 group.
Ireland is currently doing 16 years +.
From next week 12+ can register to receive their vaccine and they expect to start them the following week with the vast majority of those having got their first does by the end of the month.
76% of our adult population are now fully vaccinated and 89% have at least one dose.
Last weekend they had walk in centres for the first time. They were very busy; much bussier than they expected. It was intended as a once off ‘promotion’ to coincide with our bank holiday weekend. But due to the demand, they have decided to run them again this weekend.
Peter wrote:
Are other countries vaccinating under-18s?
The started offering to 12+ about a month ago. Unfortunately we still have a lot of idiots, so the current vaccination rate is ca 49% for whole population 58.5 for adults. Plenty of places open for walk-in vaccination.
Lets see for a disease that if they would treat early there is a less than 99.9% survival rate under age 60. Drops down to 99.5% if you have one foot on a banana peel if you’re over 60. 18 and under the numbers of are statiscally insignificant. Actually the Flu is more deadly in that group.
New info! If you are vaccinated you can still contract COVID AND can transmit it! They say it is not as severe. Think again about the 99.9%.
You cant vaccinate out of the infection because unlike polio there are animal vectors which harbor the virus. It will return every year. Natural immunity gives a broader and longer lasting immunity. The Vaccine is very narrow in scope therefore will not protect against minor changes to the virus such as the Delta variant. Whereas if you have had the virus and have developed natural immunity it will. What this means is that people who come in contact with minor changes to the virus get sick and can spread it to other vaccinated individuals. A population of natural immunity will not propagate the virus. Look at the Israeli data. The lies about that are astounding considering now the CDC no longer asks if people in the US who are sick with COVID are vaccinated. Lucky we have other countries whose regulatory agencies aren’t as corruptand give honest data.
Oh and now with the “breakthrough” cases Dr Fauci is saying that we need early treatment. But not with HCQS or Ivermectin but a drug just developed by Pfizer. That too hasnt gone through any trials. At least the two I mentioned have and can be used off label.
They ought to disband (CDC) that incompetent band of fools.
Tough to get info that is not in lockstep with the thought police at big tech because it is pulled and censured.
Sources Dr Malone, Dr Mercola, Dr McCullough, Dr Bhattacharya plus 1/2 dozen others.
The lies about that are astounding considering now the CDC no longer asks if people in the US who are sick with COVID are vaccinated. Lucky we have other countries whose regulatory agencies aren’t as corruptand give honest data.
The lies indeed are astounding. We have had 500-odd breakthrough infections in Switzerland since the beginning of the vaccination campaign (Jan. 27th) compared to 210’000-odd total cases (data end last week).
Of course we could still chance it with ivermectin and HCQ if we felt like real lucky punks.
C210_Flyer wrote:
The Vaccine is very narrow in scope therefore will not protect against minor changes to the virus such as the Delta variant
This is absolutely not true. All the currently approved vaccines protect against the delta variant.
One has to wonder though. Exactly which effects do the vaccines have? They don’t seem to stop the spread in any large manner, but certainly stop persons from becoming (very) ill and dying. This is not what was envisioned from the start. It was envisioned that the vaccines would stop the spread, as in herd immunity.
It looks like it “doesn’t” stop the spread because a breakthrough infection with a latter variant causes a far higher viral load making the carrier a very effective infection vector.
However if you were to compare infection spread in an unvaccinated population versus a vaccinated population you would see the impact – if vaccinated and contaminated you are a very effective vector but the probability of actually becoming a vector is much much smaller.
The % of vaccinated people which is required for herd immunity varies with the infectioness of the virus.
The Indian variant is thought to require about a 90% vacc penetration. The UK has got stuck at ~89% (of adults), mainly due to anti-vaccers, and it isn’t currently doing much of the rest (under 18s) which form a big chunk.
But the under-18s are mostly not getting ill, so herd immunity (via whichever route; vaccine or getting infected) may not be the objective any longer. Which will mean a regular (but very low) level of people going into hospital, for the foreseeable future, and this is what is happening. And for the old people it isn’t any different to what the seasonal flu was doing; 10k-20k died of it every year in the UK and probably same in every other sizeable country.
