An other explanation – or contributing factor – could be, that they had briefed touch-and-goes and thus could have fallen into the briefed pattern.
EuroFlyer wrote:
Why don’t you just stay out of it and wait until we know more from the BFU; you will have time enough to disseminate all kinds of stories and anecdotes in that matter.
Because he explicitly said it was hearsay and opened a discussion about procedures and checklists, that could very well be based on any hypothetical incidence. After all, you first mentioned the incidence on which this “tale” is based upon. Only because this very accident isn’t investigated, doesn’t mean we can’t all learn from it.
Peter wrote:
The bit I don’t get is why, with the plane scraping along the tarmac, somebody thought it would be a good idea to take off again.
It has happened to at least one airliner as well: Malév Flight 262
Fortunately they could land after a circuit without hurting anyone. Moreover, most passengers said that they did not feel anything unusual on the first attempt, when they landed without the gear extended.
Addition: according to some sources in Hungarian, not even the pilots were immediately sure after the go-around about the problem with their first landing.
dublinpilot wrote:
Maybe there is a market for a little box to be velcrowed into training aircraft that has three green lights and an up/down switch for training. Very occaionally when flicked down, some of the three green lights don’t come on.
A few of the Piper Cadets I trained in, while at OFT (KISM), had exactly this device: A mock gear up/down lever. It was incredibly annoying during night circuit practice since the green “gear down&locked” lights could not be dimmed, and when you selected “gear up” (green lights out) all sorts of warnings sounded when the MAP or the speed dropped below a certain value. And they could not be disabled.
Eventually we figured out how to pull the bulbs.
This is not the first such accident.
A similar incident was caught on tape and aired during one of the episodes of Ice Pilots NWT. In this case it was a C-215 waterbomber with high wings and even higher engines. So there was no damage to the flying surfaces or props, but they did scrape off quite a bit of the fuselage.
BackPacker wrote:
A few of the Piper Cadets I trained in, while at OFT (KISM), had exactly this device: A mock gear up/down lever. It was incredibly annoying during night circuit practice since the green “gear down&locked” lights could not be dimmed, and when you selected “gear up” (green lights out) all sorts of warnings sounded when the MAP or the speed dropped below a certain value. And they could not be disabled.
Aircraft with odd features added for training is an occasionally recurring theme…
Retractable gear, with the risk and complexity that entails, minus meaningful speed benefit…
Twin engines, where one has proven better…
The Twin Champ or Lancer, with fixed pitch props, not exactly the cleverest of twin engine trainers – I wonder how many were produced?
RobertL18C wrote:
The Twin Champ or Lancer, with fixed pitch props, not exactly the cleverest of twin engine trainers – I wonder how many were produced?
Not many. Thirty-six, it says here.
It also says “Sales were very limited and failed to meet Champion’s expectations; some sources state that a total of 36 were made, although others claim that only 24 or 26 may have actually been delivered”
I’ve never heard of a precautionary tale…but I think I know what you mean…
